OT: NIL — Michigan Offers QB $10.5 million to Flip LSU Commitment

Those deals with Chevron aren’t NIL driven it’s basically a partnership if anything -

Sadly some of these guys getting NIL deals are so out of it they’ve basically taken money from folks whose ideals are so far away from theirs but they don’t care and won’t see it until down the line

NIL will dry up as it only seems one group of people like to do it but when it drys up as a whole what’s plan C?

No, it’s not the job of the federal courts to clean up this mess, it’s the job of congress. Unless you can find an appellate court or the supreme court willing to reverse. Thus far, they have not.

I’m, by trade, a computer programmer. When I develop systems, I have to test for areas where unintended consequences occur, i.e., loopholes if you will. Any good plaintiff’s attorney or defense attorney in criminal cases will look for loopholes that are advantageous to their client(s). You had some enterprising attorneys who were able to find loopholes

It’s up to congress to close those loopholes or write new laws. It has to be congress because you don’t want 50 sets of NIL laws.

None of these payments are new. What’s new is that these same payments are now legal. Should I bring up Cam Newton and many others before nil? At least it is legal now. We get a $Billionaire benefactor? We are National Champion friends. Granted you still need a great HC. atm a few years back tried to buy themselves a NC but it badly backfired.

yeah…but that deal would have been prohibited in the pre- NIL world…so UH found a way to blur the lines via the NIL path!

We continue to think of NIL as only a “pot of money raised from donors” …there are more ways to use NIL than just that and as TAMU learned…throwing money at players does not translate to success.

Texas A&M focused on recruiting ranking and not enough about character and work habits. See where it got them.

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Where are the numbers…?

PLEASE…BYU or Colorado would beat Indiana…Some acting like Big 12 cant beat the BIG are wrong, because we can, and will in future, when it comes to it.
SMU is plenty good, and has a good chance to win ACC and make the playoff.

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Right!!!

The B1G is tOSU and UM and everyone else riding coat tails.

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You did not answer my question. You just repeated the same thing. What do all the individual people donating to the collectives get in return that is a good business decision?

Simple. The B1G and SEC will be paying out 80-100 million annually to each school which can help pay the revenue sharing much better than the $50 million the B1g 12 would be paying out annually. Plus they will get.still get NIL donations. This is for all schools in their conference. All the schools in the Big 12 will fall behind financially. So where is this magical billionaire going to come from the have the Big 12 (or ACC) keep up financially with the money going to the players - some $20 million per year per school…

Like I said - bad for the sport. Not a single season, Not a UH thing only, but nice of you to spend Tillman’s money.

No regulation, no balance of power means only a few will be at the top every year. What professional league has no form of power/money balance?

Did not say anything about BYU/Colorado not being able to beat Indiana this year. It was a reply in regards to parity. The big money conferences will get parity within their conference. The B1g 12 and ACC are not equals and current proposals will ensure they stay not equals.

Twice as much media money, Twice as many playoff spots, twice as much media publicity - why would players come to a lesser conference. These players all think they are great and can succeed with the best and the media tells them the B1G and SEC are the best.

Parity within the B1g does not mean there will be parity between the B1g and the Big 12. Especially when they can pay more.

Making more money doesnt mean they beat you…Our champs will beat theirs as often as not in the playoffs. and our teams will beat BIG opponents as often as not in regular season.

The point about it’s the same money as in the past but now legal is true which does help the non blue bloods more. Bama , Auburn , Texas , sec always had bag money and the ncaa rarely hammered them for cheating where as they’d hammer smu. Now smu can offer the same bag money and it’s legal. It can level the field bc now there is no bias in hammering smu and letting sec teams slide. The big schools used to give the same money then and the ncaa didn’t crack down as much on them vs a uab.

The only thing missing now is trades.

But it is on the NCAA for not dealing with it in the first place, neccesitating the courts to step in

SMU is about the only small brand school that’s been able to make hay on that though.

They’re almost literally the exception that proves the rule. It takes more than one EXCEPTIONAL example to make a case for parity. Can you come up with more than one? Pretty hard! That’s not parity.

And they aren’t even a very good exceptional example simply because a) they aren’t Top Ten and b) can’t even beat the best Big 12 school.

The Top Ten are still nearly all familiar big brands, and four of the top five are from the B1G, which is the RICHEST conference.

So you see, that’s NOT “parity.”

That’s the rich getting and STAYING richer in the NIL age.

Do you think that a small brand like UH could get into a $10 million NIL bidding war for a top player like we saw here?

As a general rule, NO!!! It’s typically only the BIGGEST, RICHEST brands like Michigan and LSU that can do that

As I said, rich getting richer. NOT parity.

You’ll have to show me a small brand school (Note: as a general rule, no B1G or SEC school qualifies as small) regularly making the Top Ten before I’ll buy the notion that NIL is creating parity in college football.

The current Top Ten definitely suggests that the opposite is true, as do the current top 15 teams except for Boise (which has long been one of the top ranked G5 teams, so no real change there), and SMU, which is literally the exception that proves the rule.

They DON’T which is why it’s NOT sustainable and we will start seeing big market schools offer more “marketing and career opportunities” for college football players.

The Univetsity of Houston is poised to be a NIL power, in that regard

The only way individual donors "bucket " can make financial sense is if donors/ collective purchase something like a stock option in the player where they own a % of his future earnings. Think of it as a mutual fund.

Yes…this is how sophisticated this is about to become and we should just now start seeing a flood of NIL lawsuits for breach of contract…as in the UNLV QB situation.

This is about to get way more sophisticated on the legal and financial sides!

Meanwhile, the bucket #2 is way cleaner

Yes…UH has people in.power all over the business and political world.

Everyone from the richest man in the city to the Mayor of the 4th largest City in the US plus thousands of successful alums in between

How many of them give enough of a crap about UH football and basketball such that they’ll fund the NIL honeypot sufficiently?

Probably very few, if any.

Take Stanford, for example. They have more millionaires and billionaires than almost anybody.

But because their rich people don’t give enough of a crap about college football and basketball to fund the NIL honeypot sufficiently, they keep getting worse.

UH is even WORSE off in that regard, because we have even fewer such rich fans that give a crap about sports.

Fortunately, UNLIKE Stanford, UH can at least reap MAXIMUM benefit from the transfer portal.

As I’ve explained before, probably no school is better positioned to benefit from the transfer portal than UH.

But NIL?

No.

Not unless something REALLY changes in the future. So far we haven’t seen it, so I am not putting money on it.

I hope I’m wrong though.

So much so that our 2025 Basketball recruiting rankings, in a highly competitive NIL environment, is currently #7 in the nation and will be #3 if we land this 5 star we are pursuing. So YES…obvious success in the NIL world FOR the university of Houston.

On the Football side…it’s why we hired a new “outside the box” AD and cleaned house in our Collective.

The Chevron partnership is a good start.

UH has a ton of NIL advantages (both direct and indirect, over a majority of the P4 schools.

We just need to make offers that are mutually beneficial to college football players to keep them to stay to maintain a strong nucleus