If we’re not going to give the G5 equal access to the playoff, we should split off a separate subdivision for the P4. If they’re not good enough to be on the same playing field, formalize that instead of pretending otherwise. But it’s a crock that we’re going to sit here pretending that the 4th or 5th best SEC team is more deserving than the second-best G5 champ.
They’ve given that option in the past and always turned it down. NIL, revenue sharing may make them reconsider now.
Also the 4th or 5th best SEC/B10/B12 team is absolutely better than the 2nd best G5 conference champ. These 4th or 5th best teams are also likely to be ranked higher than the 2nd best G5 champ.
To make the system fairer, maybe any G5 champ ranked in the top 12 should have been guaranteed a spot. This would be in addition to the highest ranked G5 champ.
“Ridiculous”?
Try fair. Giving every single team an actual shot is what every other sport on the planet does.
College football’s post season has always been a fraud. Its format is set to give a huge advantage to the SEC and B10. Always has been. Athletes know it. Coaches know it. Fans know it.
That gives those teams a huge advantage in recruiting. Its long past time to make CFB playoff a sport finally and not WWE in pads…ie fake and what its always been.
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Yes it is ridiculous. The talent gap between the SEC and G5 is huge. They reason why pro sports can give spots to each conference champ is that talent gap top to bottom is very low and the number or teams teams competing is a fraction of what compete at the college level.
The NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB models all break down if you increase all of them to 130 teams each in 15 conferences.
But like I said NIL and revenue sharing will force the G5 to seriously consider going their own way. They just don’t have the horses to compete with the P4.
Why should the 4th highest Big 12 team miss out on a revenue spot to make way of the 2nd best G5 champ? Particuarly if the Big 12 no 4 has played a tougher schedule?
Because the third best Big 12 team has already proven that there are better, more deserving teams out there. They had their shot, and proved that they weren’t even the best team in their own conference, much less the nation. G5 teams deserve a chance, too.
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Are you talking about TCU? Because they played Georgia. Georgia did the same to the rest of the SEC.
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I’m talking about a hypothetical third-best big 12 team in a given year
The runners up in the SEC regularly beat the champion of whatever conference were were in playing at the liberty bowl.
4th and 20 from the 50 still cracks me up.
Then they should play a tougher schedule! G5 schedules are cupcakes compared to what P4 schedules are! In a physically demanding sport like football, that matters a lot!
It takes two to tango! A lot of the time good G5 teams can’t play a tougher schedule because P4 teams prefer easier games when scheduling a G5 opponent. And even if they do, over half their schedule is played in-conference. Combine that with the fact that nonconference matchups are often set years in advance and a team like Boise or Tulane ultimately has very little control over how difficult their schedule is in a given year.
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And that’s the P4 problem because?
Maybe the top G5 teams should agree to 2 for 1, and attempt to schedule at least 2 top tier P4 teams annually. Why won’t Boise State play Bama and Penn State in the same year? Why won’t Tulane play UGA and Oklahoma State on the same year.
If the G5 schools want to be taken seriously they need to make concessions and also schedule at least 3 tope tier P4 schools. A Boise State team that beats both Bama and Penn State in the same year, and a Tulane team that beats both UGA and Oklahoma state, and win their respective conferences can make a strong case to get playoff spots.
Od course if both schools did that, one would get in as the top ranked G5 champ and the other would get an at large spot anyway.
It’s not the P4s job to raise the G5. If the G5 want to be raised, they need to take steps to raise themselves.
It’s not the P4’s problem; it’s a problem of the sport’s governance. In every single organized team sports competition on the face of the planet, from the NFL to Middle School girls’ soccer, going undefeated and untied and failing to win a title is a mathematical impossibility, with the exception of FBS football. It defies logic to think that Hutto would have stood a chance against Duncanville, and yet we made them prove it on the field, because that’s how sports work.
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You’re the problem. People like you, who cheer for winners of a rigged game. Congrats. You’ve proved nothing but your total lack of understanding of what sports are supposed to be about. Hate to spoil it but…WWE is fake.
(PS pro sports are for large metro areas…college sports are about…wait for it…wait for it…collleges. Big difference)
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Game isn’t rigged. Small schools have no business expecting to be treated as equal to Bama or Ohio state. There are 134 schools in 10 conferences compete at the FBS level. Their athletic department budgets ranging from $30M to $250M, and huge gap in AD revenues.
You want small schools to be given the same access and opportunities as the big ones then why give the small schools a pass for their tiny expenditures? Interesting that they want equal share of CFP revenue (a revenue they have very little hand in generating) but don’t want to spend like the big schools.
You want ESPN and Fox to essentially act as charities and the big programs to subsidize the small ones. ESPN isn’t paying $1.3 billion to air a CFP game between Boise State and Southern Mississippi.
There should be multiple levels of College sports, each with its own governance and playoffs. Each level should have schools where the gap in athletic budgets of the highest and lowest budget schools is no more than 50%. Other factors to be taken into account are fanbase sizes, media appeal etc.
It makes no sense for Alabama, Texas, tOSU, Michigan, USC, UGA etc to be in the same level as Boise State, Southern Mississippi, James Madison, UTSA, USF, SDSU etc.
I love how he admits its rigged in the first paragraph. Yes, they do.
In every sport, every team should be ‘treated equally’ when it comes to the competition. Otherwise it’s not a true sport. And college football post season has never been a true sporting event.
Just getting there is rigged. SEC teams play on average less than one road non-conference game a year. It’s been like that for decades. Given that it’s a known, statistical proven fact, that home teams have an advantage and win statistically more games than road teams this literally rigs the game in their favor. Over time it gets worse.
Now, through in the fact that a “non-power” conference team can win every single game they play and yet can still be excluded from playing for a national championship. It’s double rigged and a fraud compared to every other sport, and every other level, on the planet. Peewee, junior high, high school, D2, NFL, Canada,…all have true, real, post seasons.
D1/FBS, never has and still won’t this year. Close, yes. Better, much. But still not a true sports, competitive post season.
PS this has NOTHING to do with how much they’re paid. It’s about who gets to play. You want votes to matter when there is a scoreboard. Votes are for Ice Dancing. They shouldn’t matter in sports with scoreboards.
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I agree 100%
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If it is rigged then it’s rightly rigged. Just because a school says it’s going to play at the highest level mean doesn’t mean it deserves to be treated as an equal.
Show me a league with 134 teams where the fanbases sizes, media value, revenue and expenditure gap is as huge as it is in the FBS, but where all teams are given the same rights.
Even high school football is split into classes!
Teams can only be treated equally when the numbers of fans and the resources available to all is roughly the same and each invests to roughly the same. If you had 48-64 team CFB league with 6-8 conferences with close to equal revenue and expenditures, then it makes sense to give them each conference champ a guaranteed spot.
Nothing rigged about playing more home games. Sounds like sour grapes. A lot teams play more home games. Not sure why it’s wrong.
Winning every single game vs cupcakes doesn’t mean the team deserves a playoff spot. An 8-4 team in a P4 playing a far tougher schedule is more deserving than a G5 team going 12-0 playing a cupcake schedule.
Either Reduce the size of D1/FBS from 134 or require that all 134 teams spend equally, bring in the same media value, and fanbases; and your argument makes sense. If you can’t do that then it’s just a case of a whole lot of small, low media value, tiny fanbase schools demanding to be treated in way they don’t deserve, but they expect simply because they self-anointed themselves to be in the same level as schools that actually have the fanbase and media value to justify the billions that media networks pay.
So you would be ok with G5 schools getting much smaller share of playoff revenue (an amount more aligned with their fanbase and media value) as long as each G5 conference champ for an autobid no matter what it’s record or how easy its schedule? You’d be ok with ESPN reducing the CFP payout because by guaranteeing spots to 6 G5 champs would lower the media value of the playoffs?
It looks like that there is talk of G5 getting their own playoff (which makes perfect sense). That’s how it should be. Even if that doesn’t happen, the P2 will skim a few schools from the ACC (and maybe even the Big 12) soon breakaway anyway and form their own league with its own playoff.
Then you’ll have exactly what you want. A top league with its playoff where all members have an equal shot, and the next league with its own playoff and so on:
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The best G5 champ will have chance to make the playoff, if their record and ranking are high enough…Thats why the playoff will always have 1 or 2 open slots. And If they arent? Then they arent. And most years, they wont be. Playoff is about the power conferences. The best G5 can go to a new years game and play a good P4 team…They should be happy.
Why should literally any of this matter in determining a championship? Last I checked, none of that is on the scoreboard.
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That gap exists in nearly every sport already too.
Look at St Peter’s gym compared to UNC’s. Didn’t stop a title run.
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