Pac-2 going after Boise, Fresno State, Colorado State and San Diego State

Hoop but big time expansion related.

Rice
Tier III: Work to do
The skinny: Rice has not finished in the top-100 on KenPom since 2004,
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/pac-12-basketball-tiers-post-realignment-san-diego-state-will-be-the-new-king-of-the-conference/

From the various Youtube expansion gurus.
IF CW / Prime for new PAC.
PAC is leaning 2 essentially regional conf under The PAC umbrella.
12 teams at least.

Everybody left out West.
UNLV, probably WY, AF

Best of Gulf Coast/ Miss River AAC w many more.
Tulane/ Memphis/ USF and ______
CW HAS to have these for footprint.
Much of it is tied in CW affiliations with regional TV stations.

The ACC is not in trouble unless the 1A’s leave, UNC and Miami, it still has all sorts of inter league ties ins with the Big10 and Big east that the Big12 does not.

The Pac-2 is just holding onto whatever money they can trying to expand before reality comes calling, won’t work. The future of the PAC and MWC is Group of 5.

Don’t rule out a move by Stanford and Cal.

I saw a tweet that said that they are both thinking that if the ACC doesn’t improve their playoff chances, then they might as well stay on the West Coast.

That would be the best G5 conference. Fresno, Boise, SDSU, and Oregon State have been borderline Top 25 programs the past year or two. In basketball, Warren Nolan and TeamRankings.com rated the MWC 4th in RPI while RealTimeRPI had them 5th. And I read that the “reimagined” PAC would get a pretty good TV deal, not P4 good but somewhere between the ACC and what the MWC has been getting, likely in the neighborhood of 10 million. Yeah, I could see Stanford and Cal possibly being a part of it. If they were, then the new PAC wouldn’t need to expand, but if the league did add members, I would think UNLV would be the top choice. After the Rebels, you could be looking at Utah State, Air Force, UTSA, or New Mexico. I hope it works out for them. In fact, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Big 12 playing the new PAC in the Las Vegas, Holiday, and/or Sun Bowl.

It’s gonna be too dang funny if Cal and Stanford end up having to hold their academic noses and be in a conference with academic lightweights like Boise State.

If PAC could land Rice and Tulane, then I could see Cal and Stanford in that conference. Hell I could see SMU there.

SMU burned their AAC bridges

and Memphis
 :joy:

Statement win today by Washington State

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Just merge the entire MWC into the PAC 12 and be done with it.

So
did UNLV turn down the PAC 2 or did they never invite them?

No invite from what I’ve seen

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Does the PAC12 think they can pull the best teams from the ACC? I’m not sure where they are trying to go.

No.

I think they hope to add a few more teams from either the MWC or AAC.

And then



Maybe try to convince Stanford and Cal to come back.

They’re just trying to create a viable league that can at least challenge the ACC and B12 on the field. Frankly as long as they stay with a relatively small lineup they will have a pretty good thing going. With an 8 school roster of Oregon St, Wazzu, Boise, SDSU, Fresno, CSU, Memphis, and Tulane they would probably have the 5th highest rated champ in most years. That would give each team in the league a pretty realistic shot at having an occasional playoff birth. Then in basketball they would probably be able to compete as a multi-bid league each year. They won’t be as financially successful as the B12/ACC but as long as they can earn enough to clearly distinguish themselves from the G5 leagues it’s not a bad deal.

I have a hard time seeing Cal or Stanford return to what will be G5 status unless theyre hemorrhaging millions of dollars from travel expenses. Sure, the additions of them MWC schools aren’t bad in football or basketball, but the ACC is still viewed as a top tier basketball conference nationally. I just don’t see it.

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OMG!!!

It’s being reported on the internet that the PAC Light commissioner has been quoted as saying that if the Big 12 is “too tough” for Colorado, they’ll happily welcome them back, or something to that effect!

:roll_eyes:

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Wow new commish is more delusional than the last one

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I took that more as a shot at Colorado than an actual invitation.

Who knows?

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Yah definitely some shade being thrown at the Buffs

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So in that case she is acknowledging her league is weaker lol. Strange way to smack talk

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