That would be hard ro pull off even intentionally
Plus you have the other two crew men
That’s some good flying then. Hitting a target going 140mph while also flying at speed without even changing altitude! That was an ace flying the helo.
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You heard the expert…
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The hellos/small airplanes air traffic controller had have to have communication(s) with the hello pilot and hello flight crew. This will be made public. The plane was given runway 33 because it was asked if he had contact (meaning seeing other aircrafts) By definition he did otherwise it would never have been permitted to land on that runway. The hello was far from the airplane descending toward runway 33. You look at the hello’s flight path and that is where it does not make any sense.
It has to be a terrible human error. Timing an in air collision would be nearly impossible. It would be like catching a bullet.
Why there are two different types of aircraft sharing the same airspace is beyond me.
That is just it. They were not. The hello’s flight path goes toward the airplane not the other way around. The airplane went from runway 1 to runway 33. This requires according to my buddy an adjustment toward 33 to 43 degrees. The air traffic controllers job both for hellos/small planes and planes is to let both know of these changes.
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That flight path could have been them trying to go behind the plane but just failed to execute…
I’ll give that benefit of doubt…
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Could have been. It makes no sense that the hello kept flying in that direction though. The hello knew that runway 33 was the plane’s ultimate direction. This is where the communication between the hello/small aircraft air traffic controller is key. On the cnn video you look at the distance between the hello and plane and it is quite large. You count the time lapse when the cnn video starts and the tragic impact and it is at least six to seven seconds. Hello’s can manuveur on an instant’s notice. You know that much better than I do they are designed especially for that. My buddy still can’t believe it happened.
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Also the jet was descending to land. Makes it even harder to hit, all the videos has the helo flying level for a long time until the collision.
Crash data show airliner and Army helicopter were at different altitudes | Fortune https://search.app/riRRW2T6EZMzsEno6
The roughly 100-foot (30-meter) discrepancy has yet to be explained.
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I believe that radio traffic is already public and been posted in this thread.
I do not see any information from tower to hello ten seconds prior to collision.
The hello’s constant flight pattern directly toward the plane makes no sense. Could the planes outlines have blended with the city lights? That would be the explanation but again the hello should not have been flying that high. Even if the tower had said one thing the hello had time to manuveur away from the plane. This is the point where it does not make sense.
The plane did what was intended for it to do. Obviously a plane is much harder to maneuver than an hello. It looks as if the plane tried to but it was too late.
You might be on to something. Have you called the NTSB?
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Do you think an attempt to be funny is appropriate?
Do you think your armchair quarterbacking is appropriate?
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What would we all do without his expertise on practically every subject?
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There seems to me to be remarkable and undeniable double standards.
That’s all I’m going to say about that.
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What the Black Hawk Pilots Could See, Just Before the Washington Crash - The New York Times https://search.app/j6a2vt2paZJYHpgw7
Lots of info on other flights coming in at the same time
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Just saw this preliminary data that points to altimeter problem.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/14/us/black-hawk-altimeter-missed-tower-calls/index.html
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