Robotaxi, Waymo, and others

I’ve addressed your skewed point of view before, you’re beginning to sound like another poster that just keeps posting in circles.
Are you saying you don’t need other posters to think for you? You could always use that excuse.

We’ve addressed your skewed point of view before. You are still essentially
ticked off that the public has stopped buying Tesla cars because of the
CEOs mistaken adventures into government policy. Actions have consequences. And no new products has consequences too. Not just here, but in
Europe as well. And China leadership was lost due to better products at a better price.

And no, Tesla self driving is the only product out there trying to do it with less
expensive sensory equipment. That is a fact, not a personal point of view.

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I thought there was a community guideline against being a jerk.

Affordability, hat’s the American way, Walmart is proof of that. You’re saying people don’t want affordable?

Don’t let the community guidelines think for you Johnny.

You getting personal Johnny?

I said no such general thing. With AI in its current state, people may be willing
to pay few dollars more per ride using the best technology, when their
lives are in the equation.

As for waymo , they have over 10 million fully driverless miles logged in 5 years
compared to Tesla robotaxi’s zero miles. But buy into the hype your media feeds
you. Elon is doing a fine job in getting media attention for his products. With that
attention comes critical review as well however.

And you may want to contemplate Apple iphones in your conclusion people
want affordable over everything else.

Do you think the Cybertruck is a good looking car?

This goes both ways.

I’m a from the 80s so yea, I think it looks cool. And it’s bullet proof, kinda.

You know over 40,000 people lost their lives in traffic accidents last year? But you’re ok riding with a human driver in a regular taxi? Its all perspective, unless you’re looking to for something.

Sure it should be. However, that’s not reality for anything. Especially when you have a charismatic and very public CEO. Their personality and actions become intertwined with the company. This isn’t unusual for anything, be it Apple Computer (Steve Jobs), Laundry’s (Tillman Fertita), WWE (Vince McMahon), Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffet), or even Cost Plus Drugs from Mark Cuban. All those companies and their high profile Chairmen or CEO become synonymous with each other for good and the bad. Not unusual either, look at history for Lee Iacocca for one example…

The truth is, even if you divorce any of Elon’s political activities from the conversation, he has made plenty of grandiose predictions or lofty goals that he has not met. They are absolutely fair game for criticism, especially when he still insists upon a compensation package that is far and above anything the mere mortals who are integral to his company operations receive, all while missing his own targets like the aforementioned 2025 target for auto taxis.

Does he get more criticism than others in his industry or other CEOs of his stature? Maybe, but the higher profile you are, the more likely you’re stuck with criticism. It comes with the territory. He put himself out there as the face and genius of the brand. He gets the acclaim but can’t avoid the criticism, either.

In comparison, the other CEOs are invisible. I know I couldn’t tell you who the CEO of Waymo, Boeing, Ford, Rivian or Lucid are and I’m pretty sure a large majority of the public couldn’t either…

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Good, you guys acknowledge it. So when I point your the “criticism” of Musk’s companies, its evident that those are hilariously biased to make him look bad, even though on face value, its a silly argument. Like posting the political rating of an article or saying that the robotaxi needs a babysitter, when in face value, Waymo did the same thing when they were rolling out their service. And are now doing it with a "babysitter’ in the driver seat no less, in New York as they validate. It’s standard procedure, but for some reason, they spin it into a way to make Musk’s company look bad. I have to call that out.

Would you want a Boring tunnel in Housron?

How has it worked out for Vegas,

Big ideas, big promises, come no where close to reality. Seems to be a pattern.

Only if it is going to be used for flood relief.

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Just as we can quote you facts, not bias or opinion, of 10 million miles versus 0
miles.

Robotaxi just came out bro, do you not understand that? Waymo also had babysitters when it came out. Do you not understand that?

Just giving you facts of where things stand.

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I gave you facts too.

Nine years is a long time to promise full self driving. Great if they finally have it,
but awaiting approval from Texas Department of Motor Vehicles for that. Agree ?

His admission on Wednesday only further emphasizes that Tesla and Musk were wrong when they made that infamous proclamation in 2016.
Musk was unequivocal and defiant at the time, too, going so far as saying that the media was “killing people” by writing “negative” articles about crashes involving Tesla’s driver assistance system, Autopilot. “You effectively dissuade people from using an autonomous vehicle,” he said on a conference call in 2016, a time when fully autonomous vehicles did not exist.

You were crying about Robotaxi having a monitor in the passenger seat. I pointed out that Waymo had the same thing when they were starting out. But you spun it to try and make Robotaxi look bad. Now you’re saying Robotaxi is late. So what? Waymo just applied for use in New York, and guess what, they have a monitor in the driver seat. Can you see how your point is stupid?