Robotaxi, Waymo, and others

What JohnnyCouger is saying is that some people like to speak for others.

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You left out the word “seemingly” (meaning it seems to me) which make those words mine, not any that I put in anyone else’s mouth.

Nice try, but I wouldn’t quit your daytime job though if I were you.

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So what ?

People have bought into this for a long time. If you don’t see the humor in that,
I don’t know what to tell you. You seem to like carrying the water for Musk, which
is kinda funny too :joy:
Do carry on !

Fyi, NY state law requires a human to be present at this time.

You could have left out “though.” It duplicates the thought and takes the steam out of the attempt at an insult.

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Not crying ? Just pointing the real state of things.

Does that trigger you ?

Judging by your reply to anything remotely positive news on Robotaxi, I think maybe its you that’s triggered by Musk’s companies.

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A driverless Waymo vehicle struck a utility pole in Phoenix, Arizona, in May 2024, leading to a voluntary recall of its entire fleet of 672 vehicles for a software and mapping update. The incident occurred while the Waymo was attempting a low-speed pullover in an alleyway, a maneuver for which the automated driving system had an insufficient ability to avoid collisions with such permanent objects. No passengers or other people were injured, though the Waymo sustained some damage.

Details of the Incident

  • Date: May 21, 2024
  • Location: Phoenix, Arizona
  • Cause: The Waymo’s automated driving system made an error when trying to perform a low-speed pullover in an alleyway, misinterpreting the permanent pole and a nearby hard road edge.
  • Consequences: There was minor damage to the Waymo vehicle, but no injuries to passengers or bystanders.
  • Response: The company filed a voluntary software recall with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).

Waymo’s Action and Fixes

  • Recall:

Waymo recalled 672 vehicles, the entire fleet of its driverless-capable vehicles.

  • Updates:

The recall included a software update to improve the automated driving system’s ability to detect and respond to poles and similar permanent objects.

  • Map Update:

A map update was also deployed to include the hard road edge that was previously not accounted for in that specific alleyway.

Outcome

  • Waymo confirmed that the software and mapping updates were completed and deployed across its entire fleet, with no impact on its current operations.
  • The company stated it would continue its “safety first approach” and work to build trust with the community.

I see a pattern of overselling and under delivering. That should be called out.

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Call it out, but we’re talking about Robotaxi now. Its not anywhere near as bad as someone is trying to portray it, even using Waymo as a counter.

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No, the “though” was a conjunction to qualify the “nice try”.

I’m always glad to offer grammatical help.

Not sure you get to decide who gets to make what argument, no matter who you stan.

Say what? I don’t decide anything, I’m replying. I guess you guys that don’t like it hide behind the no one thinks for me statement. Stan? What’s that.

Finally, something we can agree on!

Too funny to ignore. Driving into parking garage the wrong way.

But I can hear the apologists now,“…but, but, but humans do that too !”

And remember the CEO said a few weeks ago that half the country could be using the
service by end of 2025.

https://electrek.co/2025/07/23/elon-musk-with-straight-face-tesla-robotaxi-will-cover-half-us-population-end-year/

Only Robotaxi have problems, said the spoon fed media consumer.

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I actually did see and hear about this waymo
incident back in January. It was widely reported in the “bad media”. If this is “news” to you, your charge is very self incriminating.

Oh no, Waymo made an illegal U-Turn and (almost) got a ticket! Doom doom doom. Right Tesla haters? Maybe just needed more lidar.

Google is not really a comparable to robotaxis because Google literally invented something that never existed in anyway while Robotaxis are just a change in what we already have.

They have the Waymo’s in Atlanta and 99% of the time they are empty.

Not a lidar issue. Issue of once again self driving cars appearing to be unable
to recognize and comprehend road signage and markings. This seems to be common problem among both waymo and tesla systems. It should warrant concern by all drivers and pedestrians and law enforcement.

Officers were bewildered to see the car — a self-driving Waymo robotaxi — make an illegal U-turn at a traffic light right in front of them, the San Bruno Police Department said in a social media post Saturday.

Now this should be a simple software bug update and the corrected code pushed out to all vehicles auto magically. Now ask yourself what happens real-time when the patch has a more serious undetected bug introduced ? Can’t happen right ?
These things are thoroughly tested ;).

Reference the Crowdstrike rollout.

The 2024 CrowdStrike incident was a widespread IT outage on July 19, 2024, caused by a faulty configuration update to CrowdStrike’s Falcon security software for Windows. The update contained a logic flaw that led to a null pointer error, causing approximately 8.5 million systems to crash with a “blue screen of death” or boot loop. The incident disrupted critical services like airports, hospitals, and financial institutions, highlighting the risks of single points of failure in cybersecurity.