Your article is pure propaganda because the real WMD report clearly showed what was found. Your report is trying to justify the unjustefyable.
Moreover, another clear point that this article was pure propaganda.
Let say they were WMDS…then why wasn’t these same WMDS found and shown to the public?
They never were. Gotta try to explain that one. Do you have another propaganda piece?
Sure Bro.
The New York Times was generally a liberal, anti-Bush newspaper.
The fact that THEY of all people broke this story makes it anything but propaganda.
It only BOLSTERS the credibility.
As for the WMDs…once they are found, they need to be destroyed. No need to show anybody. Simply document them, and document their destruction.
PERIOD.
FULL STOP.
Never shown to the public.
“Yes we are sure that they are WMBS” they told the world.
“Yes we are sure this laptop is russian”
Yes some of these same goons were also involved at that time.
Yes world, we found the WMDS. We can’t show them to you. You might turn like the Repo Man.
I haven’t read this yet but seems like everyone involved in this thread would find it interesting.
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Why are only California residents allowed to opt out of the selling of personal info on that site?
Likely because of state regulations. You live in a state that cares less about privacy it seems.
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That’s every site. California has stricter laws for that.
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Nobody believes that WMD were found because buried weapons don’t count. We all know it, but Law has to defend what he was a part of, we understand that. But that was an unjust war built on lies and most acknowledge it.
When you add on Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia
You end of up with nothing but shame and the lowering of the American standard abroad.
Its not something to defend, instead we should vow to never let it occur again
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Actually they do count.
All chemical weapons are WMDs, and they all were supposed to have been destroyed under treaty.
The fact that we found upwards of 5000 that weren’t means only ONE thing: that we did indeed find WMDs in Iraq.
WMDs that were apparently concealed (buried) to prevent their discovery.
I realize that that is something that you would prefer not to believe or admit, but that’s the reality. I realize it destroys your preferred narrative, but sometimes, bogus narratives need debunking.
Nope, no one believes that buried degraded, unusable materials constitute a reason to invade a country. Besides the fact that Iraq and Saddam had zero to do wirh 9-11. It was an a unjust invasion, sold on a lie, plain and simple.
Ohh and we gave them those materials to fight Iran so really America is the sponsor of WMD
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They weren’t unusable.
They even caused casualties.
And would be very effective as IEDs in the wrong hands.
So yes, they count.
Again, destroys your preferred narrative, I know.
But sometimes that is necessary.
Stop lying
Weapons found buried in Iraq, which are mostly old, degraded chemical munitions from the pre-1991 era, could not be reused as militarily significant weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) but remained dangerous for local attacks in makeshift bombs.
Factors Affecting Reusability
Degradation: Chemical agents and munitions degrade over time. The sarin nerve agent found in many rounds, for example, becomes less potent, though still hazardous, over decades. Mustard agent, while more stable, is often in corroded containers.
Military Utility: The remnants are not in a condition to be used in large-scale, strategic attacks. They lack the potency and reliable delivery systems required for mass casualties on a battlefield scale, as noted by the Lowy Institute and the U.S. government.
Lack of Infrastructure: Terrorist or insurgent groups who might gain access to these remnants generally lack the specialized infrastructure, laboratory conditions, and technical expertise needed to turn limited, degraded materials into a functional WMD.
We did not go to war to dig up degraded chemicals. It was an unjust invasion sold on a lie
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PERIOD
FULL STOP
The biggest killer of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan were makeshift bombs.
So yes, they WERE usable.
Ask any insurgent if makeshift bombs are militarily significant.
They are!!!
So they were no threat outside of Iraq.
Thanks for making my point
Case closed
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They could have been used outside Iraq as well had we not discovered them and disposed of them.
Suppose ISIS had come in (as they later did), and gotten a hold of them instead?
They could have used them anywhere they had a presence.
Wasn’t the whole idea that we invade Iraq, seize the WMDs, and prevent them from falling into the hands of terrorists?
Hint: it was.
Good. Mission accomplished.
Thank you for proving MY point and MY narrative.
They certainly could have been used outside Iraq had they fallen into the wrong hands, such as ISIS’ hands.
Case closed.
NEXT!!!
Lets take a Coogfans poll,
I bet more people think 92010Coogs was indoctrinated at UH than believe those degraded buried chemicals count as WMDs.
I understand your need to justify the war you were a part of, but nobody is buying it.
There is a reason we never hear from this guy anymore
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That was a fascinating read - thanks for posting it.
One thing that’s encouraging about it is that our intelligence work did what it was supposed to do, even though almost no other country believed it, thanks to lingering distrust from what happened in 2003.
Uhhhhh………
About 3/4 of my wartime experience was in Afghanistan, and the rest was in Kuwait.
I have almost no personal stake in this.
It’s all about factual truth, nothing more.
And that’s factual truth as reported by a LEFT leaning news source, so I can’t imagine why a lefty like you wouldn’t buy it. It ain’t as though this is coming from FoxNews.
There are a lot of people out there that believe a whole lot of things that aren’t true. My purpose is to dispel one such misconception.
But even putting that aside, Iraq today is the most functional democracy in the Arab world, and second in the entire Middle East behind only Israel, so nobody can say that, at the end of the day, the Iraq Wars weren’t strategic successes.
Afghanistan is a different story. That was, as GEN Milley told Congress, a strategic DEFEAT for the United States. Taliban victory.
Stop it law. You of all people know that these were remnants and could not have been transported. They would have killed whoever was going to handle them. Thank you for your service but please stop defending our so called intelligence. Lets hope these same intelligence sources have finally been purged from the Pentagon and our armed forces.
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