https://x.com/jasonscheer/status/1812674302871064802
Does this thing really have legs?
Yes. Because we donât have history with them, and arenât in the same state and would not be directly competing for the same recruiting area and politics.
First of all, there is no guarantee that the SEC or Big Ten said no to these schools. That is just speculation.
Thatâs such a vague tweet.
Scheer is credible. He had info on the PAC exits along with actual dollar numbers before anyone. And he was correct about it all.
However, itâs the âconfidence it will go the way everybody wantsâ quote that confuses me.
If thatâs the case, then why say that the Big 12 believes it will land FSU/Clemson in the first place?
I just donât see it happening that perfectly.
Notre Dame to the Big 12 would be an extremely difficult sell mainly because they have their own interests (remaining independent, academics, Stanford) in mind. I just donât see it. They have the biggest ego in all of college football. They also have powerful donors who would rather die before joining the Big 12
UNC I also donât really see either. They are going to be targeted by both the SEC and B1G which is largely why the FSU/Clemson â Big 12 scenario even has realistic grounds. UVA is the odd one, but I have them in the SEC with UNC.
Thereâs a chance the ACC survives, but without FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA and possibly ND, itâs definitely not a power conference anymore. Virginia Tech, Louisville and NC State simply do not hold enough weight. Miamiâs value really only lays from their hay day, which was over 20 years ago
To be honest, given the way the current Big 12 media deal is structured compared to the SEC/B1G, we need football brands. Not basketball.
The SEC/B1G already have high-paying media deals which is why it makes more sense for them to add UNC, despite UNC not being a âfootball blue bloodâ
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Their three main annual games are Stanford, USC, and Navy. Add one more game to their Shamrock Series and it becomes non-con automatically. With FSU and Clemson coming in, theyâve taken their biggest opponents in the ACC year to year. Notre Dame joins and gains some new ones too!
PLease no Miami⊠The only reason that school is of ANY fame or consequence is because of that insanely corrupt and slimy Football program that won âchampionshipsâ. :rolleyes:
I mean who the hell had ever HEARD of them before that? I spent 2 summers in Panhandle./Miami areas of FLorida (1974, 1975) and I remember hearing about various things but even in Miami I never heard that place mentioned ONCE.
Not to mention we at Utah have been mocking those idiots for claiming to be âThe Uâ, when they are such a young school. U.of Utah been around since 1850, and has been calling itself âthe Uâ for a century at least (it really ramped up with BYU started calling itself âThe Yâ). In a strange sense both seem reasonable since both universities have said letter in a giant block cement form on the mountains above the school ( its a western states thing mainly).
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Stanford would NOT be a show stopper.
But I think ND is far fetched for other reasons.
When it comes to ND rivals, this is how it works:
USC - Biggest Rival and Annual Game
Michigan - Most Hated Rival
Purdue - In-State Rival and Annual Game
NW - Local Rival
Michigan State - Almost Annual Game
Navy is an annual game, but that series is so one-sided that itâs a stretch to call it a rivalry.
Stanford is likewise an annual game since the 1990s, and even a Turkey Week game in alternate years, but as someone with two first cousins and five total cousins who are ND alums, I can tell you that many on this board GREATLY exaggerate the extent of that rivalry.
When I talk ND football with my kin, Stanford never comes up in the discussion.
Stanford has never influenced NDâs alignment decisions. If it did, then Stanford would have joined the PAC. On the contrary, they joined the Big East and ACC, neither of which had Stanford at the time. Likewise, Stanford will probably have no role in any future ND realignment. Stanford would not be an inducement for ND to join the B1G given that most of their real rivals are already there, and that hasnât been an inducement.
For ND fans, itâs all about USC, Michigan, Michigan State, etc.
That is to sayâŠ.B1G schools.
Other than the schools mentioned above, ND also has a LONG series with Pitt. Those two teams have a 1909-2023 series with 72 meetings. Only a few schools like Navy, USC, and Purdue have played ND more times.
By contrast, ND and Stanford have only met 36 times.
They 100% donât care about travel.
They also believe theyâre better than the B12.
They think their academics are above the SEC.
They havenât succeeded in the SEC to the level they expected, and they now want to get away from UT. Theyâre not moving back in with their ex, so the B10 looks good to them.
If the Big Ten expands to 20 teams after adding Notre Dame and possibly one other school, theyâre still going to want to add Texas A&M?
Aggy is part of the confederacy. No way they join those yankees.
10 of 18 current members of the B1G are âland grantâ universities like aTm.
That, together with their ginormous fan base and brand, might make them a fit.
Adding Clemson and FSU would catapult the Big 12 BIGTIME AND help us to forget we ever had it and OU and really donât need them.
ND to me is just pie in the sky dream until I see it happen but adding them with the other two puts the Big 12 as good or in better standing than any other conference. With the aforementioned 3 the 4th school wouldnât even matter much so we could be very selective.
Scheer is not a good source, especially early in any realignment scenario
He called the corner schools to the Big 12 pretty accurately.
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Welllllllllllllll after he was blasted for saying they werenât coming. Heâs a flip flopper
Anyway, I gotta hear it from Brett McMurphy before Iâll truly get on board.
ehh⊠if I recall correctly⊠it was other people who were blasting Scheer for even suggesting the 4 corners joining the Big 12âŠ
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