UH Football Recruiting

Number 45 Houston

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They say Pilot is a real recruiter, wonder who he is working on.

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Love to get players who are high recruits that then turn and start hard actively recruiting for the Coogs on their own. Those are the types of players you want on your team that want to help build something special

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How are they biting Coach Early?

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Thanks for the insight . . . . . LOL

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Our 2023 Offense is looking good, and could be way good.

Our Defense
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Based on 2022 we need lots of talented players to join our team. Especially DB’s.

So far all of us should be encouraged by our recruiting. Already looks like Dana’s best UH class.

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I see rating we are at 3.18, which actually is higher that 13 other teams ranked ahead of us on the avg for each class. Not understand the methodology to reach their rankings JMO we are at 32 in the nation imho. If you put in a deviation we are tied for higher ranking with another 5-7 teams. Beyond my 32 in ranking

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Strange that they rank based on total points. Makes little sense.

If you have two bowlers. One bowls three games and bowls 100 each game. That’s 300 total.

Another bowler bowls two games at 140 pins each game. That’s 280 total.

Who had the better day bowling?

The recruiting services would say it was the first bowler since he scored 300.

Common sense would say the second bowler, who averaged 140 even though he had a lower total for the day, bowled better that day, IMO. .

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Reading this thread makes me think that Coogs are recruiting well.

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247s system was created in and for a different time, when the vast majority of everyones class was HS. Maybe a few juco and transfers here and there. Its just outdated now

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That’s why they added that transfer rankings and composite rankings.

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If we’re recruiting bowlers that average 100 and 140, we’re screwed.

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It makes a lot of sense. Depth matters. So does having all the positions. If you have five five starts and sign no one else in football you’d have the best average and wouldn’t have enough to play if you did that for four years.
247’s team rankings give a team credit for having more players in a class
 but diminishing returns for each added player at a specific position. if you get 20 QBs it won’t rate as high as a team that has same player rating average but has 20 spread out around all positions.

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An arguably more flawed system. How do you rate a transfer who hasnt played, but was buried on the depth chart at alabama, vs a Sun belt all conference player? Or a real example of ours. Trimarcus cheeks vs Jamall Morris. Now neither of them got rated, but how would you rate a former 4star who hasnt seen a down of CFB vs Cheeks who was unrated in HS, but had collefe experience. Both turned out to be big time players for us immediately. Plus half the transfers never even get ranked. Garth has been on campus since August still doesnt have a transfer ranking.

From last years class

Aaron willis no ranking
Jamall morris no ranking
Trimarcus cheeks no ranking
Lance Robinson no ranking
Tyler Johnson no ranking

1 redshirt, and 4 players who were starters or saw significant time on the field. These systems are dumb and they will never be able to give an accurate picture. Stop worrying about where we rank and just use your eyes. This is a hell of a class and thats all we need to know

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Absolutely agree, Gdashman! I believe Willis and Morris and Johnson were 4 stars in HS with tons of offers. Willis came from Tennessee, Morris for OU, and Johnson from U of Texas
as is Garth, a Port Neches OL and longhorn transfer who was very highly sought after
Robinson and Cheeks are solid players too

For the system to act like they dont exist and give them no ranking is ridiculous on its face
we move onward and upward


Didn’t know they had the part factored in for adding player of the same position. Makes sense for QB, maybe if you load up like 4 RBs too. I guess we are taking a hit because of 4 WRs and 4 Safeties in the class. Could be flawed as a couple of those safeties may end up at corner or LB. Also a position like WR needs depth in today’s game. You better have 6-7 WRs ready to play.

Not if they can run a 4.3 and catch the ball. :upside_down_face:

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There’s definitely something to that, but I wouldn’t completely dismiss rankings. I mean are we or are we not thrilled that we got three four stars? But if you look at Rivals (we’re 2nd in the 12-team new Big 12 in average ranking per recruit), 247 (5th in the 12-team new Big 12 in average ranking per recruit), and On3 Recruiting (6th in the 12-team new Big 12 in average ranking per recruit), it’s obvious there’s a good degree of subjectivity in the rankings.

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I recently watched,via YouTube, a replay of our Cotton Bowl win over Nebraska.

This allows one to evaluate Defensive players, since 1979 was our greatest defensive team.

When I look at our defensive recruits I evaluate DL guys against Hosea Taylor and Leonard Mitchell. Are we signing DT’s that are that good? For example, Ed Oliver was that good.

Do we sign a LB as good as David Hodge? Etc.

I am very encouraged by our Offensive recruiting. For example, our Star WR in 1979 was Eric Herring. We have several as good as Eric in 2023.

We need defensive help. A lot. Until recruiting settles down in May we still do not know how our defense will look in 2023.

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I am guessing Hosea Taylor and David Hodge would have been a 5-stars. Both were #1 defensive players in Dave Cambell’s Texas Football coming out of high school. Leonard Mitchell would have been a 4 or 5-star. T.J. Turner would have been a 4-star.

Too many to go through, but the point being get mostly high 3-stars, some 4-stars and a sprinkling of 5-stars and your team is in good position to compete for championships.

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