Ukraine

I didn’t make the list up, I googled "Members of Nato that were in soviet union and that list was produced. Now I can’t find that site again. But I just looked up Members of Nato and this is what I got and it does not contain most on my above list. I will alter my list.

Alphabetical list of NATO member countries

Albania
2009

Belgium
1949

Bulgaria
2004

Canada
1949

Croatia
2009

Czech Republic
1999

Denmark
1949

Estonia
2004

France
1949

Germany
1955

Greece
1952

Hungary
1999

Iceland
1949

Italy
1949

Latvia
2004

Lithuania
2004

Luxembourg
1949

Montenegro
2017

Netherlands
1949

North Macedonia
2020

Norway
1949

Poland
1999

Portugal
1949

Romania
2004

Slovakia
2004

Slovenia
2004

Spain
1982

Turkey
1952

United Kingdom
1949

United States
1949

Jesse, The football and basketball boards have been kind of repetitive of late.

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I totally agree. My post was all in jest in a way of making light of all the talk that goes on in Satellite threads. You’re very capable of holding your own over here. Me not so much, so I’m out!

I don’t believe Putin needs to invade or will invade Ukraine. He already has it. His troops on the boarder virtually guarantee no outside investment from foreign companies to help it thrive. Biden’s speech a couple of weeks ago also created doubts in what our response would be and whether that was said intentionally or not, it helped Putin.

All Putin needs now is a pro Russian running that country again, and he will get it next election cycle. What you are seeing now is just noise. For all intents and purposes I believe Ukraine has been decided.

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Are you sure?

Can’t foreign investment still come in through Poland, Romania, and Moldova?

I believe Ukraine is settled. I would not invest in a country that had the possibility of being invade and had its future in doubt. That’s what Putin has created in Ukraine, doubt about its future.

As far as what Putin wants next or if he even wants more is anyones guess.

The question is what if he wants just one more country? And I think the consensus was that as long as that country he wants does not belong to NATO. It’s all good because we have no chance or interest in helping a lost cause and there is that nuclear war possibility so, just let him have it.

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I got a question for you.

You’re Polish, right?

I met a Ukrainian woman once who told me that she could understand 90% of what a Pole says, and about 75% of what a Russian says.

Does that sound about right?

Yes, I would say for a polish person it’s probably 75% of Ukraine and 40% of Russian.

The Ukraine has a large polish population and parts of what Ukraine is now belonged to Poland at different points in history. Lvov what is now Lviv used to belong to Poland not to long ago, just one example.

Poland fought and won a war in 1920 against the Bolsheviks over Ukraine. Some theories suggest that this was the reason why Stalin joined Hitler in invade Poland In 1939.

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What about Belarusian?

I don’t know. We left Poland when I was a year old. When I was at NYU there were a group of Ukrainian and Russian foreign grads that I befriended and so my numbers come from hanging out with those guys but there were no Belarusian in the group.

On the topic of Ukrainian women. Those are some of the best looking women I have ever seen.

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Impressive given how poor the Ukraine is.

Among European countries, only Moldova is poorer. Ukraine’s even poorer than lowly Kosovo.

See here.

Biden And son are in bed with Ukraine and China

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“Your statement is not realistic. Just drop it”

The truth hurts NRGcoog. I do not blame you. So much hope that turns into constant lies.

Regarding Ukraine being poor is only due to past and current aggressions. Ukraine by its natural resources is rich, very rich. Having a true independent government not at the mercy of the Russian going after them would transform the country into a major European player.

If Biden can’t stand up to Germany, how can he stand up to Putin? | American Enterprise Institute - AEI

Germany is not our friend. We share some common values and they are more than willing to allow our troops to be there to defend their country and to be permanent tourists there.

Please try to use real news sources; there was a graph presented to you
about this a few days ago. Thank you.

As it stands your comment that board of directors should only seat a “gas genius”
just shows your bias to not think critically. Was he experienced to have a seat ?
Not from what I’ve seen. It looks like it was a move to gain favor or possibly peddle influence.
But you still haven’t shown that connection effective. Keep trying.

I have a Ukrainian patient who married an American. He is in his 40’s and she is in her late 20’s. They had just taken their kids to Disney and so I related a story of my first time at Disney, when I was about 10 years old, she told me that when she was ten years old, mom and her were picking potatoes in the potato fields. I think some folks have no clue what poor can really look like.

Gosh dang it Germany. I wonder if they sent condoms as well.

If they had offered Leopard II tanks……THEN I’d be impressed!

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Germany is siding with Russia because of the oil and gas.