No, it’s annoying pacifism.
Even Japan, whose Constitution is officially pacifist, has been a better recent ally than Germany.
They are at least building aircraft carriers to deal with the Chinese threat.
Wake me up when Germany’s defense budget reaches Trump’s goal of 2% of its GDP.
We need to let Germany or push them to like japan is doing.
No worries, guys. Biden just sent Javalin anti tank middles to Ukraine.
Ya know Gang.
Our history of fighting against the Red Army was basically not a good one.
See here.
In its article listing US wars, wikipedia only characterizes a handful of US involved conflicts as defeats for the USA and its allies.
The Russian Civil War is one of them (together with Afghanistan, Vietnam/Laos, Nicaragua in 1912-1913, etc). That mission was a failure in every sense of the word.
Should we ever fight Russia on the battlefield…I hope that we’ll do better!
Considering their ancestors are Vikings, Cossacks, Mongols. There are a tough resilient people Hitler found that out. They lost close to 25 million of their people in WW II. about 50% of the casualties in WW II without them highly unlikely we could have defeated Nazi Germany. Vice versa for them with out the USA
hitler made the same mistake that Napoleon did. He decided to engage Russia when #1 he did not have to and he did it at the wrong time.
The most that I can see coming is a “mild coup” where putin puts in one of his lackey. He did before…in Ukraine and in other ex soviet block countries.
The common denominator is energy. biden terminated the Russian gas pipeline sanctions knowing full well that it would benefit putin. The last “clean up” that putin has to do is put back in place the same type of goon that he had in Ukraine when obama was President and…biden V.P. hunter biden did not work for burisma by chance. Do you think a head hunter all of sudden said:
“That hunter is a gas genius. Who gotta have him”
Who are we taking for fools?
Actually…
You read Mein Kampf that was always his plan, lebensraum for the German people and make the Slavs (Russians) into serfs for their new German master’s. Never wanted to fight the Brits he admired them and the empire they built. He wanted to make peace with them once they acknowledge the de-facto fact of Germany being per- eminent on the continent
Putin wants to reintegrate as much of the old Soviet Union as he can. Not any president’s fault. Russian’s border security is a smokescreen for expansion. Putin will do as he will. Consequences may delay an invasion as he reassures the Russian elites he needs to govern that they won’t lose much money. The US is not to blame for Putin’s behavior. This is who he is. Anyone who thinks US troops fighting Russian troops in Ukraine is a good idea please raise your hand.
Without reading all of the 169 previous posts, all I will say about the Ukraine-Russian situation is I don’t want to get into a war with Russia over a country that has no strategic or other vital interest to the USA. I don’t know what the ultimate Russian goal is, but I don’t think it is world communism like before.
We have obligations for defense of NATO members, but Ukraine is not a member. I just don’t understand all of the hawkish attitudes on this issue. I don’t want to send our military men and women into harms ways for sabre rattling and end up in a devastating war.
Looking at history makes it hard to decipher how this will play out. We saw how the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand caused things to spiral out of control and threw the world into the horror of WWI. It only took a spark. On the other hand, we saw the appeasement of Hitler on the Sudetenland just led him to further aggression and WWII.
I just hope we have people with calm heads figuring this out and it is not just up to what Biden thinks is politically the thing to do. His record on foreign policy has historically been rather poor.
Yes, disastrous.
Mike,
I somewhat agree with your overall tone on this topic. We don’t want to put US troops
anywhere near a position in which a general on either side could possibly make
a mistake or instigate an escalation between the US and Russia. If Ukraine was smart, they would
agree to some type of 20 year treaty to remain independent of joining any military alliance, appease the Russian “fears” , and then be in a position to accept eco assistance from both sides.
But I do see Putin as person that sees himself as some grand historical leader whose destiny is to reassemble the past Soviet empire. People with such egos are not really interested in negotiations but conquests. We need to hold the line only on NATO members and hopefully cool
heads prevail.
I think we are in agreement on the NATO defenses. I don’t know what Putin’s full intentions are and maybe they are to reassemble the old Soviet Union. These countries that were part of the Soviet Union are now part of NATO:
Estonia
Latvia
I just don’t see Russia trying to take these back because of the NATO defense treaty would definitely bring about a war. I don’t think Russia wants a war with the US and NATO members either, but I do think they will push against what they see as our weakness at the top and take Ukraine if they think they can get away with it.
Mike, I was poking in to make sure you’re OK n you entered this area of the forum on your own free will. I’m concerned for your well being Sir, by staying in Satellite too long. 
. Ok I gotta get out. Get back over to Basketball/Football area pls.
Concerned member.
Chris,
It is very typical for a board of directors to contain members that are NOT experts in the
industry of the company they sit on. The idea is to get expert opinion from an outsider
perspective. Look into the board of directors of almost any industry and you will see that
practice in action. So no, a company looking to add board members would NOT be looking for a
“gas genius” as you say. Your statement is not realistic. Just drop it.
Now I don’t consider Hunter an expert in any field worthy of sitting on Burisma’s board. The optics
speak to a way to seek influence. Nothing illegal was done or certainly hasn’t been shown or
proven to be illegal. Do you have proof otherwise , please show it. Your problem is you need to show conclusively that thru Hunter , the Ukraine influenced US policy thru a VP. And US VPs are pretty much just bystanders with no much real power other then casting a tie breaking vote in the Senate. You have a pretty high bar to obtain facts that support your thesis of corruption. But you see corruption in just about everything .
I was headed out, but I agree w/ the very last sentence.
Outtt!
Not to nit pick but the only two countries in your list that are NATO members are Latvia and Estonia. Theoretically, everyone is fair game in terms of Russian aggression and not tripping article V.
Mike,
Of the countries you listed, only Estonia and Latvia are NATO nations.
We would be duty bound under our treaty obligations to defend either of them, should Russia attack them.
The other former Soviet republics you mentioned are NOT NATO nations.
We have no obligation to defend them, and likely will not.
Russia likely won’t attack Belarus simply because Belarus is, for all intents and purposes, a Russian client state. Its dictator, Alexander Lukashenko, is an open admirer of Joseph Stalin, and has always been close to Russia.
Regarding those other nations, Russia probably won’t attack them simply because a) many of them, especially those Central Asian “stans,” are major suppliers of cheap expat labor to Russia, and b) in other cases, like Armenia, Russia has good relations with them.
Also, given that Russia has had to deal with Jihadist rebels in some parts of their country, I don’t see them adding Azerbaijan, or any stan, if for no other reason than that it might radicalize a segment of those populations, and create another Chechnya situation.
But for largely Eastern Orthodox Christian nations like Georgia and Ukraine which were historically a part of both the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union………WHOA NELLIE!!!
Remember……what ethnicity was Joseph Stalin?
GEORGIAN!!! Not Russian!!! His real name was Iosip Dzhugashvili.
Russia wants it back!!!
Don’t understand why NATO never invited the USSR under Gorbachev, he actually floated the idea of them joining NATO.I believe Putin was open to it too at one time when he was the new leader after taking over after Yeltsin. Major blunder I believe. History starting to show that, now.
Uhhhhhh…….
NATO was formed to defend against and oppose the USSR, not add it.
It was opposed by the Warsaw Pact, which included the USSR, East Germany, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Poland, and other Communist countries.
A failure of leadership to think outside the box when a paradigm shift was happening in world history imo. If your former enemy wants to join, you accept and make sure they play by the same rules as everyone else. Like LBJ said I rather have a political opponent inside the tent peeing to the outside instead of them on the outside peeing in
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