I don’t know of any, but Wendy Adair ( I think ) did a follow up book to In Time but
it was a more like collection of photographs.
This book didn’t have the level of detail of the first bookand may not be what you are looking for.
There were some Daily Cougar articles that addresses the topic of UH athletic support over a number of years, but I can’t find them.
Isn’t that a step back? Maybe one step back to take two steps forward is the plan. I believe they were giving out scholarships at the NAIA level, at least partial ones. I’ve seen NAIA programs move to NCAA D2 when they want to move up.
NAIA schools can give scholarships which will, in most cases, make them better competition wise.
However, d3 schools are generally better academically.
You won’t find NAIA conferences that are on THIS level academically:
The latter is the only conference other than the Ivy League to have ALL of its members in the AAU.
I didn’t even realize they have been playing D3 the last few years. Do those athletic conferences actually work together on academics? D3 has always had the better academic schools because most don’t care about athletics and its just there to say they have it.
Thanks again.
Just placed this one on my cart to buy in Amazon too.
Between the 2 books you recommended and Stephen L. Klineberg’s Houston: Prophetic City, I have A LOT of reading to do hehe
UST was only a “provisional” NCAA D3 member until now.
They had to wait until all their NAIA scholarship people were gone in a transition period, and they had to add more sports.
This is the first year they will be eligible for D3 tournament play in basketball.
In that sport, I think that they have a good chance to win the SCAC, which includes some other pretty good academic schools like Trinity.
As for the two conferences I mentioned above, I do not really think that they work together academically in any organized way, BUT, both conferences were formed under the notion that schools that were similar in profile to each other should compete against each other in sports.
In basketball they should be a favorite in the SCAC every year. They were competing well at the NAIA level for the last few years there and that conference is one of the toughest in the nation.
Softaball too. Competition is better in D3 and although I doubt they’ll add football, they want to follow the HBU route to D1.
I don’t see the D1 thing happening, and I also don’t see football being added, but as I said, UST can be a VERY GOOD D3 athletic program in the sports that it currently has, especially basketball.
It has the whole Greater Houston area to itself in terms of D3 sports recruiting.
My Mom went to UST her first year of college (finished at Lamar), and I have an Uncle who is an alum. My best friend from HS got a BA in Philosophy there.
I’ve always liked their campus, especially the Chapel!
As far as competition is concerned, as I said, NAIA generally has better competition, thanks to scholarships, but d3 schools are generally better academically.
I heard D3 has no scholarship limits and that’s why competition is better.
No, D3 has NO ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIPS PERIOD.
Trust me. I went to a D3 undergrad college. NO athletic scholarships are allowed. That’s why UST couldn’t compete as a full d3 member right away. They had to wait until all of their NAIA scholarship athletes were gone.
That’s why the competition is worse in D3 than in any other level of intercollegiate sports competition.
The academics are generally better in NCAA D3 than in the NAIA though.
NCAA D3 is probably better top to bottom than NAIA D2. Most NAIA D2 programs don’t have scholarships either and are terrible academic schools.
It’s definitely not “better” across the board, but in baseball, for example, the gap between top D3 and NAIA programs is pretty small. And there are some really terrible programs in both divisions. Many D3 players choose those schools over NAIA for a number of reasons, especially since scholarship money is scarce.
Oh, my bad, what I meant was there is no limit to the number of student athletes that can be on the team, since there are no scholarship limits. From softball, that means the roster could be 30 players strong for example. Whereas D1 and D2 have limits to the number of players. And as noted by UHLaw, academically stronger schools join D3 because its cheaper but its also a good way to get into a school if you’re an athlete. You could possibly get admitted through the athletic team. I think the Fuller House lady got caught cheating using this method, but it was to USC.
It generally doesn’t work out that way.
People that are good enough to get a scholarship generally go to schools, even NAIA schools, where they can get one.
The non-scholarship level folks leftover fill the d3 ranks.
Ummm, no. My daughter played travel softball so I have first hand experience with the way it works.
Yeah, it’s not that way at all.
I would say it does work that way in football and basketball though.
As a general rule, it is VERY RARE for D3 football players to have received a scholarship offer anywhere.
That’s generally why they end up in d3.
Maybe, but given that many (if not most) D3 schools don’t have football, it can’t really be the general rule. I don’t really know about the D3/NAIA split in basketball, so I couldn’t say.
There are tons of D2-level baseball players in D3, especially in Texas and California. Since there isn’t much scholarship money in baseball at any level, you definitely don’t see many kids choosing NAIA over D3 for that reason.
Counter-intuitively, D3 football is actually LARGER than any other NCAA Division. 250 schools. Roughly twice the number of schools that are in I-FBS, about twice the number that are in I-FCS, and far more than Division II (169). About ten in TX alone.
Just in TX, you have:
Mary Hardin-Baylor
Hardin-Simmons
Howard Payne
McMurry
East TX Baptist
Southwestern
Texas Lutheran
Sul Ross State
Austin College
Trinity
Of course, you never hear about any of those teams, simply because D3 football really is THAT low profile and THAT poorly publicized.
I can tell you that at the D3 college I attended, I never met a football player that had had a scholarship offer ANYWHERE. All of their offers to play were from D3 schools.
Having seen several D3 games in person, I can tell you straight up, that most D3 teams…couldn’t beat a good TX Junior College; those TX JUCOs, of course, have a lot of D1 level talent (non-qualifiers) that the D3s do NOT. D3 teams would get steamrolled by any Division 2 or above TX school.
Now, to be fair, and to answer norbert’s point, it is true that some of the TOP D3 teams do get way more football players than others, and there are no limits to the number of players you can suit up.
Consider Mount Union, which is basically the “Notre Dame” of Division 3. Each Fall, they have more than 200 players report for camp.
By contrast, schools like Oberlin…may literally have fewer than 60 (SERIOUSLY!!!).
OF COURSE it’s harder to compete when you don’t have enough of a turnout.
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