Welcome Michael. It gets interesting. Post with caution!
And the same old songs, pleaseâŠ
That top 25 south Florida gameâŠthat was an amazing effort and showed his skills.
In January, after the early signing period, there is not a juco qb that could deserve to play here.
Now the qb transfer portal is full of talent!!!
Agree with you 100%. But had he been honest he would not have been able to go to class and graduate at no charge, receive medical care and rehab with no expenses to him, have access to weight training, cardio and the facilities with no cash from him and letâs not forget meals, housing, books and road trips with the team. The state of Texas and the donors are the ones who picked up the tab for Derek. We should send him a bill.
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Nah, itâs still the coachâs decision on whether to play him or not. If King refuses to play, thatâs one thing, but thatâs not what sounds like happened. Then again, I donât think CDH was ever enamored with KingâŠwhich is fine. I really donât think either side was wrong here (other than DâEriqâs daddy).
What I do think is that DâEriqâs dreams of being a QB in the NFL were dashed last season. I think his limitations at that position were exposed and that any thoughts of him being the next Kyler Murray werenât realistic. He does have a strong arm, but he doesnât have much touch on intermediate throws and definitely seems to have issues throwing to the leftâŠat least in the flats. Could be something in relation to his size.
I also donât think the Johnson or Briles offenses really helped him. One was a basic RPO while the other was a non-play calling reactionary offense. Neither are close to being an NFL offense and thereâs a reason why most guys who QB in those systems donât play QB in the NFL (or donât last long). Holgorsenâs air raid is more of what the NFL is starting to move towards, but King seemed to struggle in it.
What kind of seals the deal, though, is that he basically abandoned his teammates this past season, wasnât completely forthcoming of his intentions, and seems to have little free will when it comes to his dad. Canât see many, if any, NFL team not seeing that as a huge red flag for a guy thatâs supposed to lead the teamâŠespecially one with as many limitations as King has.
Honestly, and I hate saying this, Kingâs smartest move would be to go reunite with Tom Herman over in Hornville and try to be a RB/KR/PR/occasional Wildcat QB (Wes Welker, Danny Anendola come to mindâŠalthough they both played in the Air Raid) Thatâs the role heâll be best suited for if he wants to have a chance in the NFL and Iâd imagine Herman would love to have him back in that role. Itâs likely King would show enough to probably get drafted in the later rounds and get a shot. However, if all he does is go reunite with Briles to be QB again,I canât see that getting him much notice or helping him beyond college, especially since I doubt he puts up the same numbers in the SEC that he did here in 2018 against a very weak schedule.
Ah well, figured I finally had some thoughts about this during my sort of hiatus and figured Iâd come and say something. Still hoping to be back regularly soon and go back through all the old threads. Lot of life changes happening in a short period of time that require my focus at the moment, and continue to happenâŠhopefully will be settling down again soon.
Hope you all are well and, as always, Go Coogs!
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King had âitâ. The electrifying runs, the best deep ball I have seen in a long time, cool under pressure⊠Keenum had âitâ, Greg Ward Jr had "itâ.
Blake Joseph didnât have it, David Piland didnât have it, John OâKorn didnât have it, and unfortunately from what I have seen, Clayton Tune doesnât have it. Doesnât mean he wonât be adequate, but his play is average. I love the kid for his tenacity, and I hope he can take a big step forward going into his Junior year. He stuck around, and he deserves credit for that.
The best deep ball that he was 2-19 on
Who is this King guy yaâll keep talking about?
Go Coogs, go Tune, go CDH and whoever he brings in as a QB as next man up!
Good to hear from you. Coogfans can waitâŠnot much going on anyway 
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If one subject was thrown out the window Football thread be pretty dead right now. 
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Great to hear from you PrayâŠhope that everything turns out well, whatever you are dealing with. We are all with you 
% !!!
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Cary, Tune stepped in under an extremely adverse situation. We were 1-3 after many had hopes of 10-2 or better. King had redshirted which caused a whole lot of fans, who all but canonized him, to suddenly hate CDH and disparage Tune. The OL had become decimated by injuries and one of our best WRs (Corbin) had redshirted. Yet, despite the obvious reasons for our poor season which were definitely not the fault of Tune, many on this board have been putting the lad down.
I think the kid can do well for us in the upcoming season, and unless proven wrong, I think all Coogs should give him the benefit of the doubt and lay off.
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I donât disagree with anything you said, and if it seemed I was putting him down⊠Iâm not. Saying he doesnât have âitâ, doesnât mean he isnât a good QB or canât improve. Surrounded with playmakers, he could make the Coogs a winner. An average QB can look great with the right guys helping him.
Wow there is some crazy revisionist history on here. Leading into the 2019 season this board, along with national media had King in the hunt for the Heisman.
Now, heâs not a winner. He doesnât have âitâ. He hasnât won big games. Unbelievable how people turn on a kid.
By all accounts, heâs a good kid.
Heâs a kid that changed his mind. Who here hasnât left for another job?
QB win/loss record is the most useless/meaningless/overused stat in all of football.
Iâm as bummed as anybody that he wonât be here for 2020. But jeez people. Get a grip.
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Well stated.
There are two types of people with opinions on Coogfans. One type gets tunnel vision, states what they want to say, but ignores context surrounding their subject. The other states their opinion but takes context into consideration. If you think people are being short-sighted with Kingâs sample size, you should see all of the type 1 dudes talking about Tune.
Book recommendations for the type 1 guys: Context Matters- by Sam Sommers
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Nothing revisionist, just statistics and reality.
The main thing I fault him on is not being truthful with CDH which caused him to miss out on a couple of QB transfers he could not go after as long as King was still here. His delayed announcement has put us in a bind. John Holcombe from K-State was one being considered who also had interest in coming. The kid ended up signing on at Florida A&M because he couldnât wait any longer.
We now have a report, from a very reliable souce, that it was King who went to Pez before the Tulane game and told him that if we didnât beat Tulane he was redshirting. King played CDH all along and CDH covered for King and took a whole lot of heat for actions not of his doing. CDH was the good guy in this whole ordeal.
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The problem with statistics and reality is that statistics are used to support oneâs own perceived reality. Ben Roethlisberger could throw for 400 yards, 4 tds and 3 interceptions(which has happened quite a bit for him). People will either use that stat line and say:
â400 yards and 4 tds? heâs the greatest!â
or
âHe threw 3 interceptions, he sucksâ.
Which one is it?
Edit: have a QB leave the team and youâll get more of the second view point.