Should we Open Schools in the Fall

After reading those Tweets, we are this much closer to pulling the home school trigger.

apple.news has these tweets but there is not one single pediatrician in it?

So adults can demonstrate by the thousands but we can’t open schools?
At the same time pediatricians keep saying that it is safe for children to go back to school?

Chris, you recognize that children don’t have the ability to make complex decisions, as a general matter. We don’t let them contract, join the military, drink, smoke, etc. OTOH, we let adults make decisions that other adults may think are dangerous. Not the same thing. Adults make decisions for kids.

I asked you earlier to provide a link to this. My daughter had an appointment with her pediatric specialist last week. We got a zoom appointment and did not have a choice to go into the office. I"m doubtful that most doctors want to open the schools. I know all of them don’t.

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A quick web search. This is from MSNBC.

WRVA is a far-right radio station. It’s lineup consists of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ben
Shapiro, and the Fox News Rundown. Sigh.

Pediatric group changed its position:

“A statement released Friday by the American Academy of Pediatrics signaled a turn away by the group from aggressive reopening plans.”
[Political commentary excluded from quote]

From your article:

“
 send them back to school with proper precautions in place.”

From the outset, public health experts and epidemiologists generally disagreed, and obviously pediatricians who earlier supported reopening assumed strong guidelines would be in place.

Not even close.

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You clearly choose to not read my post. The article was about pediatrician and other doctors asked on MSNBC about their choice for their children to return to school. They were all in favor of it. They do not work for Mr. Rush Limbaugh or the others mentioned.
I am sure you can find the MSNBC interview on line.

You attacked WRVA. The WRVA article was mentioning what the doctors were saying in the MSNBC interview. Are you going to tell us that these doctors did not say that?
The insider article can’t help itself but take a swipe at our President. It is not mentioning the MSNBC segment.
I pointed it out before. You keep schools closed. This has a major financial impact for single parent (14 millions)
You want us tax payer to pay for the single parents to get a babysitter?
You want us tax payers to protect these children from terrible abuse?
Would you care to explain how we can afford it?
European schools reopened. It was not easy but it worked. We do know that it is very difficult for young children to transmit the virus. Will you deny that too?
Our children are the ones that will, that are greatly suffering from this. They are and they will be affected for the rest of their lives.

1 Yes - pay single parents to stay home if no other option. Declare national emergency. A real one.
2 Yes - we protect children
3 Deficit financing as was done for WW2. 10 T if need be
4 Europe has gotten some control of situation. We
lead world in daily cases and total deaths. No comparison.
5 What proof is there that children cannot transmit virus ???
6 Missing a traditional semester or 2 of school, supplemented by online should be fine IMHO. We
will see shortly how many parents feel the same way. I highly doubt kids will be scarred for life .

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Good points NRG but we’ve got one side trying to communicate to the other through a steel wall. Not working and I am really tired of trying. Hopefully no kids or staff members or family of same will be lost are scarred by this political rush to reopen face-to-face instruction. I’m afraid that won’t be the case, but we can always hope, and it does in large part appear parents are taking the decision out of the hands of politicians.

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Also from a purely heartless and financial perspective, there is an opportunity cost associated with not doing enough to help people social distance when the caseloads are not yet under control. As in, we are about to sign another stimulus package because we did not do enough to control the first wave. Businesses are still struggling even though most of them have been allowed to open. The first stimulus package cost 2.4 trillion dollars. The next will probably be in the same range.

Smart thing to do would be to spend money on the front end so public isn’t so burdened to to expose themselves or their children needlessly so we can get the caseload under control. The longer we prolong these surges by discouraging social distancing, the longer stimulus packages become necessary.

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There is also an economic cost to deaths.

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From what I see and hear from coaches and teachers around the area. The schools are going to open in the fall. Mid September to mid October with distancing, plexiglass on desk and masking.

Practically every district is doing online only (in our case staff is in the building but not students) for anywhere from 3-8 weeks. When a particular district plans to do a mix of in-person with virtual, they’ll again meet with local health officials. I know UTMB and Galveston County Health District told our school board and superintendent it wasn’t safe to start with in-person. But the state, at least at this point, is being very rigid about forcing an in-person return after the eighth week. Of course they were adamant about starting in-person until they weren’t. Hopefully Texas will get the curve well down by the eighth week. If not I don’t know what will happen, but my guess is parents would take that decision out of politicians’ hands.

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You still did not answer my question on why all of the doctors interviewed by MSNBC were in favor of their own children going back to school.
Reopen safely with social distancing. Can we all agree on that and why this is not already decided?
Here is the MSNBC version.

Pediatricians are thinking as pediatricians. There other people in those buildings ranging from mid 20’s to their 80’s. We want to keep them alive too.

A school is not a restaurant, retail or office. The rooms are packed with people. Buildings are old. Normally cleaning is not like an office or retail.

The kids are talking, screaming, spitting, urinating, defecating, bleeding, eating in confined spaces with adults who are overweight, diabetic, have hypertension, and are pretty much a mess.

They do this for 7 hours a day, 5 days a week.

And don’t for a second think that the appropriate supplies will be in place.

So overweight hypertensioned diabetic teachers are the reason we should not reopen? So their bad decisions in life should effect all of us?

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So Europe or other Western countries can do it but we are incapable of doing so? Man that says a lot of our public schools. You got to admit that this is not logical at all but isn’t this the entire reason to keep children away from school? Is this about health or something else?

Yea what kind of nation tries to protect its undesirables, survival of the fittest is the way it should work and then we can weed this people out and get a master people.

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All of the countries reopening schools are ones that got their infection rates under control. Ours is not. It won’t be as long as we keep trying to reopen our house while it is still on fire.

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