Anti-Palistinianism can be ignored

Not going to get involved with anything else on this thread, but sadly yes, dogs can be trained to rape people. It was systematically done by the Pinochet dictatorship to torture civilians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Olderock

It waa clearly labeled an opinion piece, the outrage toward the NY Times is strange

Thats bad projection, you’re bending over for Isreal. I don’t buy that excuse one bit, Journalists have meet with Hamas and put themselves in harms way during every conflict.

They didn’t have to publish it.

You still haven’t actually debunked the link. Just spewed the same crapola. Take it to another thread. We’re not defending Hamas here, no matter how much you want to believe that. We’re pointing out the madness and horrors Palestinians experience.

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I’ve never accused you of defending Hamas. I’m accusing you of taking the actions of a few and attributing those actions to an entire nation.

I’ve already told you the difference. When an Israeli does something, it is investigated and if found guilty, they will be punished by the law. When a “Palestinian” does something bad or evil, they celebrate in the streets and financially reward that family. There is no moral equivalent here.

Could you please point to a time in history when there was an Arab nation called “Palestine”? Who was the Prime Minister/President/King/Ruler? What was the National Anthem? What was their Constitution? What was their currency?

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Israel doesn’t exist naturally, so i don’t see how you can compare Palestine to states that exist naturally (geopolitically-speaking).

If the United States were to have halted all military aid to Israel anytime within the last 50 years, the state of Israel would’ve been obliterated in a single day.

WTAF does this even mean?

A nation is typically created through several primary processes: decolonization, the dissolution of larger empires or states, secession, unification, or revolutio. Each method involves distinct historical, political, and social dynamics.

Israel checks the boxes.

If you read the second paragraph, Israel (the State) exists because of the massive amounts of aid it receives from the United States.

If that aid were to have stopped, Israel wouldn’t exist because Israel doesn’t produce enough natural resources to be self-reliant. If relies on imports at much greater scale than it is able to export natural resources to generate enough revenue to be independent (factoring in geo-politics)

What’s happening with Russia-Ukraine is what would happen with Iran-Israel (except that without the aid of the US, Israel would’ve been torn to shreds)

Wrong. When you start with an incorrect premise, the rest of what you typed doesn’t matter.

Israel exists because on 5/14/1948 The State of Israel was established when The United Nations voted to partition the British Mandate of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states

If that’s what you truly believe, then do you believe the United States should stop giving mass amounts of military aid to Israel?

If not, why not?

Back on topic, settlement extremists

“Kill all Muslims”

Why should we stop? Israel uses that money to buy American manufactured defense equipment.

It seems you only have a problem with the US giving aid to the only Jewish nation on earth :thinking: They also happens to be one of our most important allies. Israel does a lot for us too.

Are you hearing yourself?

We give Israel aid (US taxpayer money) to buy our weapons? Is that an attempt to counter what I’m saying?

It doesn’t matter if it’s Jews, Mexicans, Chinese or Martians → Israel is merely the entity through which the United States can institute its influence in the Middle Eastern region.

I welcome any Jewish person to migrate into the United States, as i would any other ethnicity or religion.

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Thank you. Still waiting for his evidence that this didn’t/doesn’t happen.

I have never condoned violence. I do not support what the young lady was saying.

Jerusalem Day is a celebration of winning the 6 day war. In the video, they showed many people dancing. I already posted what they were singing and translated it for you. It wasn’t death to anybody.

The reporter who claims that the singing and chanting was an attempt to silence him is a lie.

Yes

Yes

It’s becoming increasingly clear that Jews aren’t safe here either.

Why are you so against supporting the only western style democracy and our closest ally in the region?

Define western style democracy

You answer my questions first about Palestine.

When was there ever an Arab nation called “Palestine”?
Who was their leader/Prime Minister/President?
What was their currency?
What was their national anthem?
What was their constitution?

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When was there ever an Arab nation called “Palestine”?[/quote]

there’s a population of people that collectively call themselves Palestinians, and that’s what majority of the world refers them to. Was there ever a state of Palestine, it seems that’s not that the case.

They’ve had various leadership throughout the decades, so you would have to be more specific

They’ve never had a stable currency. They’ve had the Palestinian pound for a short period of time

No idea, have they had one? Is a national anthem a pre requisite for something?

Palestinian basic law

I don’t understand your point in asking these questions because I don’t believe that the State of Palestine has a right to exist, nor do I believe Israel has a right to exist.

But I do believe Palestinians and Jews have a right to exist