It’s not happening because you really don’t believe they would have a claim.
So why should Israel have a claim from 600 AD theft?
It’s not happening because you really don’t believe they would have a claim.
So why should Israel have a claim from 600 AD theft?
Because they were there at the time, and the ancestors of today’s Palestinian Arabs stole it from their ancestors at the time.
They are now justifiably taking back what was stolen from their ancestors.
Are there other instances where you are against the Geneva convention?
Is it really stealing if it’s conquest? Cause those thousand years ago kids got conquered more than once, if you want to argue this is just reconquering territory that at least holds better water.
Otherwise you know there’s a certain demographic here in the US who would like a word about stolen land, and you know ethnic cleansing/ forced depopulation of lands.
Speaking of conquest
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Dude, it doesn’t matter.
The USA and its citizens benefit from Israel.
It’s not a perfect relationship, but if Palestine is liberated or threatened Israel internally, then that would hurt you, me, and everyone else in this country.
Is it ethical? No it’s not. But i promise you if Palestine was in control of Israel, then history in the Middle East would have turned out completely differently.
I don’t see how Palestine becoming a country (I guess that’s what you mean by liberated) hurts me or you or anyone at all.
This whole freaking thing could have been avoided if the idiots last century would have actually made two countries. Then there would be a actual country to hold accountable instead of this quasi thing we have with Hamas and Palestine.
And I prefer to do the ethical thing all the time.
That sounds like an argument for South Vietnam
Because Jews in Israel do not trust a Palestine state that has complete control over its own economy and military.
It’s a risk of an invasion and/or war.
It’s not possible for both Jewish Israel and Ethnic Palestine to live alongside each other as equal autonomous states. It will end in war with one group attempting to regain control of the entire region
And again, giving Palestine its own independence does not serve US interests.
It’s also an argument for the destruction of everything left of Palestine. Complete the genocide.
I mean if it worked in 600 ad why won’t it work for today?
because it’s evil that’s why
I don’t think this blatant anti palestinianism should be allowed in this thread.
Certainly wouldn’t be allowed twisting it the other way in the other thread.
He’s just pointing out how American geo politics has seen the matter
Why does it sound like the Cokd War?
In what way am i anti Palestine. A two state solution is never going to happen.
I completely despise what Israel is doing, and i consider it a genocide.
It’s a matter of fact. If Palestine is fully liberated (meaning they have full control over their own economy and military without any Israeli influence), then that will threaten Israel which thus threatens US economic interest, which then hurts you and me.
If Palestine breaks any treaty and decides to invade Israel once they built a military powerful enough to do so, then that will significantly hurt the USA beyond repair.
Even the Arab states that hate Israel aren’t willing to take in Palestinians because they don’t want to deal with a refugee crisis.
There is literally no solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict. The USA along with many other western countries benefit from Israel imprisoning Palestinians.
You literally are talking about there can and should never be a Palestine and yet you wonder how you can come off as anti Palestinian?
I can’t face palm hard enough for that.
The only solution is two countries. It always was
It doesn’t matter if i care. It’s not going to happen. This conflict is just an unfortunate part of global history.
Everyone that tries to chose a side does so in attempt to absolve themselves from any guilt. Or they shout for a 2 state solution and shame others who don’t advocate for one, knowing that a 2 state solution isn’t even possible.
You want a free Palestine? Be my guest. I would love if everyone is free, but the reality is that a freed Palestine is a threat to YOUR economic interests.
I could care less about Zionism or holy lands or any of that. I’m not even religious myself.
Nonsense. Other countries around Israel won’t attack them because they are a nuclear power. If if they take in Palestinians it will simply help Israel steal more land.
The only solution is for Palestine to become a country and for that to happen Israel will have to give up a lot of land they’ve stolen. That is what may never happen.
If Israel did and a real Palestine emerged peace would also emerge. Would benefit us far greater than sending billions to Israel every year.
Other countries don’t attack Israel because Israel is both financially and militarily backed by the USA. That’s the entire reason Israel is so powerful. They are an extension of US interests in the Middle East.
I applaud your optimism that peace would be achieved if Israel gives up stolen land, but if that peace is broken and Palestine ends up invading Israel, then I promise you will regret the very ideals you have in your brain.
I wish we could give humans the benefit of the doubt, but the reality is too much is at stake. And far too much time has passed for peace to ever be made. Palestinians hate Jewish people, and Jewish people hate Palestinians.
A Palestinian state serves no purpose for US interests. It makes you feel less guilty by advocating for a Palestine state given yours and my tax dollars are currently funding a genocide, but that’s all it does.
I could give you a hundred issues just in our own country that will make you personally feel just as guilty.
Money runs the world man. I hate it, but it’s beyond my control.
The entire world benefits from Israel.
There was a 2 state solution. Remember, Israel left Gaza in 2005. How did that work out? “Palestinians” have rejected peace at every turn.
Exactly. Every nation on Earth has been borne out of military conquest. Why is Israel held to a different standard?
Where would Gaza be now if Hamas didn’t take the Billions of dollars that the world poured into it and instead of using it to build its economy and making it a thriving metropolis, instead they used it to build underground tunnels and buy weapons with one goal. To wipe every Jew off the earth.
Where would Gaza be if over the past 20+ yrs not one missile was shot into Isreal? That they showed not by their words but by their actions that they wanted to live peacefully with Isreal and the rest of the country’s in the region?
Where would the millions of people in Gaza be if the above happened?
The only reason none of this has happened is because of Hamas. People around the world say they care about the people in Gaza. Get rid of Hamas and don’t allow the next governing body that follows them to have the same evil agenda.
Pretty hard when they’re brainwashing young kids to hate Jews.
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