I know it is far fetch that the Big 12 would raid the Pac 12, My comment was in response to the hypothetical scenario that was laid out before which was why I had the smiley face haha
I myself think if UH is moving then keep on moving. I am old enough to remember the old SWC and the cows acting like they doing us a favor by letting the little orphan âcommuter schoolâ into their club. And I remember giving upper echelon UH people crap and asking them WTF happened for UH to end up in C-USA and then the American. NO MORE. Frankly I donât trust ANYBODY in the Big12 to tell the truth or keep their word- especially Bowlsby. If UH were to get an invite to the PAC or Big 10 Iâd be shocked if it took us more than a nanosecond to say yes and think everybody else in the B12 would do exactly the same thing.
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The Rockies ainât movin-you can see them any time ya want. We might be better off trying to get home and home games with PAC schools.
- Howâs that?
Iâm thinking the PAC will get as much as 10-15 million more per team than the new Big 12.
Sorry- but NO. I have lived in the western states for a while and I donât want UH playing Colorado every other year with the altitude @ 5000 ft with a chance of snow at any time. Itâs bad enough having to go to BYU every other year for the same reasons. BUT I will LOVE having BYU at home in September with a kickoff at 1pm.
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Not if the PAC ever wises up and moves itâs games up to earlier in the day.
Additional padding, and contingencies for the future.
If the Big 12 had expanded to 12 when they got TCU, they could have Pitt and Louisville right now (along with WVU â TCU gets left out in this scenario). If theyâd expanded with WVU they could have gotten Louisville along with Cincinnati. Cincinnati would also have years of Big 12 under its belt and be a better team than the one theyâre going to get, probably. Itâs good for us that they didnât, of course. This isnât 20/20 hindsight as I was saying at the time that would be a smart play.
That (losing teams to other conferences) is less a risk right now, but you never really know what comes down the pike. So to pick another exampleâŠ
It was my belief that the AAC needed to add two more basketball schools, like Saint Louis and VCU. The argument against was âwhy?â⊠but the answer is "Because if the conference gets raided it has more reserves.
Now theyâre down to three strong basketball programs, one of which may be departing. Iâm n0ot sure Saint Louis and VCU accept an invite. Iâm not sure they hold on to Wichita State.
Likewise, if the Big 12 had expanded to 12 when they got TCU, they could have had Pitt and Louisville. Or if after they could still have gotten Louisville.
The biggest blunder, in my opinion, is that the Pac-16 never happened. USC may be regretting that for a long time⊠unlike the above two I did not think that was a bad call because I, like they, believed the Pac-10/12 was in better shape than it was.
Iâm kind of biased, but I think itâs a good thing that the Big 12 invited four teams instead of two or three even though Iâm not convinced that we actually increased their TV value.
Anyway, I see more expansion blunders that involve conservatively sitting pat than I do inviting too many teams. I think a lot of these decisions end up being short-sighted. The only two overexpansion cases are mid-major/G5s: WAC-16 and Conference USAâs 14.
Why does the PAC expect a large increase? They play at awkward times, they are isolated from most of the country, theyâve done absolutely nothing to increase their viewership, and theyâve been irrelevant in the playoffs. I know if Iâm a TV exec Iâm going to lowball them.
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If we get scheduled in the snow then i want them scheduled in August.
That was my thought.
Being largely locked into the Pacific time zone, I canât imagine that their TV deal would be super good.
This is exactly then that they can offer us. They still have all of the cards and have not shown their hand. They just âcheckâ for now. Stay tuned.
Iâm not saying it will be a big increase, but chances are they end up getting 10-15 million more per school than the Big 12, which will see a reduction in their payout per school. The PAC has huge markets, including the #2, #6, #11, #12, #16, #20, #21, etc.
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Found this
Looks like PAC12 should have jumped on expansion when they had chance to increase their viewership for cheap as their TV numbers suck looking at this chart
But they have always had them. They donât offer the networks any additional value to justify their increase in compensation.
If thatâs true, the door is opened to Boise and Memphis. But I guess Bowlsby is going to wait and see how the Pac 12 TV deal shakes out before he asks the presidents to hold their nose academically and pull the trigger on those twoâŠ
I hope the big12 doesnât add anymore unless we leave bc weâre p5 so weâre good and we need to leave room in case we can add some good ones.Boise brings good football but the market is small and Memphis isnât a big market.
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Hereâs better new for PAC12 TV
This caught my eyeâŠâWrapping up the weekendâs broadcast TV slate, FOX drew a 0.9 and 1.44 million for Stanford-USC â coverage of which did not begin until 11:56 PM ETâ
If the big 12 can get Nebraska back they are a so called Blue blood . Colorado has been in the Big 12 before so I donât think itâs to far fetched to think they can make it happen again.I think these two teams moved because of the Texas bias that was going on in the conference.If you can get them two back maybe you can talk Arkansas in to joining as they have not won in quiet some time and are surely moving down in the SEC after the UT, OU add.Then you can take your pick Utah ,Arizona , Memphis will be definitely better than the PAC With a blue blood .
Nebraska and Arkansas are Blue bloods and have huge followings
NobodyâŠand I mean, Nobody, is leaving the SEC.
They are holding onto that conference as tight as they can.
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