Big 12 / Pac 12 / B10 Expansion Thread (Part 1)

Due diligence and to put pressure on PAC schools to go ahead and come over sooner than later. Yormark might be threatening them implicitly with taking some combo of Fresno State, Boise State, UNLV, Colorado State, or SDSU so we can expand west. Give him these PAC teams a sense of urgency to act…

While the pac is actually visiting G5 schools…

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law read what UHoustonRocks posted. Maybe just maybe you will finally understand the business angles to this.
What we know for sure is that every conference is in flux including the sec, big10 and BIG12.
PRINT THE CLOSED CASE

Can Pac-12 football avoid going the way of the Big East? | Opinion - Deseret News

It must have been quite a shock to OU fans, brass, alumni and donors when they realized PAC wasn’t interested in them without Texas.

I wonder how different how things might have turned out had UT, TT, OU, OSU joined PAC in 2011.

I don’t think expansion with more G5 schools is a good idea. Firstly ESPN has only agreed to pro rata increase for their share of the contract if P5 members are added. Already ESPN is paying millions more each a year for 3 G5 programs. I don’t see ESPN agreeing to extend the pro rata increase to more G5. Plus Fox has not agreed to the pro rata increase even for P5, convincing them to up their payout for G5 won’t work.

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Counselor, since when does the attorney for the defense get to declare the case closed? I thought that was only within the judges purview.

The B1G has declared no further expansion for now; however they did not declare it was forever. The new commissioner is still getting familiar with the landscape. I would not bet against Oregon, Stanford, or Washington (and maybe even Cal) eventually going to the B1G.

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So glad we’re finally making the move to a P5 which should have happened many years ago!

The number of media reports on this topic is so large that where there’s smoke there’s fire.

Big 12 membership would bring more visitors to Arizona than what currently exists. Utah, USC, and UCLA has fans who travel to Az. The rest…not so much.

BYU and the Texas schools would send fans out West, helping with ticket sales and atmosphere.

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Hey anything can happen over the next five, ten, or one hundred years.

But people shouldn’t act like Washington and Oregon to the B1G is coming soon.

I’m thinking more like an announcement within the next 2 years, but the exact entry year is uncertain just like it was with the B12 teams entering and leaving.

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In the last 15-20 years, Gonzaga and Arizona are better brands out west than UCLA. Those two have more success and MUCH bigger fan bases. Compare Gonzaga crowds in Vegas to UCLA’s.

PAC is in extreme distress

Huskies are looking to bolt

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https://twitter.com/boneyfuller/status/1625944096320929794?s=20

The problem is people would still get in their car instead of watching the game.

Oregon and Washington didn’t get a B1G invite. They can wait and hope they get a call from the B1G while trying to get uneven shares within the PAC structure/media deal, just accept whatever media deal the PAC makes, or try to get into the Big XII. They are both beggars right now, deservedly or not. USC was the indispensable member, even when they stunk it up.

Conversely, the Big XII footprint has a lot of college football fans who have an interest in the conference games, mitigating some of the value lost by UT and OU departing.

Note: Canzano says that Rutgers and Maryland were added for TV households. They were added for the carriage fees from being on cable TV, not the households. As carriage fees diminish as a percentage of a conference’s take from a media deal, real eyeballs become more important. He’s really telling half the truth.

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With what I’m hearing, I think it might be closer to months rather than years.

With no TV deal in place, and leaks about them knowing about an already bad deal becoming worse as time goes on, I’m thinking within three months.

The Larry Stone piece seems to completely skip over what exactly the Huskies’ options are.

The Huskies are very unhappy, therefore they will __________.

The CBS article builds on a fallacy. Oregon and Wash don’t have the luxury of wandering eyes. Their eyes have been wandering for months to no avail. They don’t suddenly become attractive to the Big 10 because other teams leave. To the contrary, they become weak as Hell. If they’re smart they team up and negotiate a deal with Yormark before the other schools do. That salvages a decent landing spot and leaves the others flopping in the breeze.

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I think we end up taking 6.

We take the 4 corners + OUW knowing they are just waiting for the B1G to call them up.

That puts us at 18 and then 16 when the B1G calls which leaves 4 spots for the ACC raid.

WSU + OSU + CAL + Stanford go G5

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