Moving to electric vehicles will dull recessions currently inflated by oil

EVs are cleaner than fossil fuels you say?

This is news to me

Of course it is.

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EVs don’t emit carbon monoxide and that’s news to you. :thinking:

Don’t know if that was meant as sarcasm or if he is trying to make the argument all or much of electricity is product of fossil fuels.

I’m going with it being sarcasm.

I’m not exactly sure.

Johnny, I have used them several times on trips. They have a lot of locations at Walmart. What do you want to know specifically?

I was looking at home charger installation options.

Johnny, What I would do is just call an electrician. I bought one from Ford in 2022 and I use that for both of my vehicles, the other one being a BMW. Any reputable electrician can put one in, I just had to get a 60Amp breaker added. It will probably cost anywhere from 1-2k for labor and materials from your electrician. You can buy a charger from the dealership or even Amazon. I bought a charger for one of my employees from Amazon (I think the charger was $500) and had it put in for about $1500.

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If his panel is more recent, he shouldn’t have to spend nearly that much for installation. I had mine installed in expensive Southern California for $675, and the charger was a little over $600 (Chargepoint).

The panel upgrade would be a for sure increase in cost. I lucked out, as my solar lease covered mine years before.

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So, just as EVs may dull a recession* caused by or that could have been worse if gas prices spike up…so can lower gas prices help dull one…

*No, I haven’t seen evidence to say we’re in one…yet.

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Opec has kept things manageable with
their increased production.

https://www.motor1.com/news/766011/stellantis-abandons-hydrogen-development/

That last line is the kicker.

However, regardless of how much fuel cell technology advances, without a suitable refueling infrastructure, these efforts will be in vain.

Outside of California, there are no retail hydrogen stations. And even California
only has about 55 stations across just 2 metro areas.

Also reported is kg of hydrogen has recently cost from $14 to $32. 1 Kg hydrogen = 1 gallon of gasoline roughly.

Coupled with no new news on the white hydrogen reserves being commercial,
it looks like hydrogen has a very long road ahead for its widespread adoption.
Still rooting for it, but it’s in the far future for it to ever be widely used it’s looking.

You can get a new, or almost new Toyota Mirai for next to nothing in LA. People have been dumping them when their free feul credits run out, usually after a couple of years due to the fuel cost being so high. I have a station near my old house. I thought about it briefly, but the economies of scale didn’t really work.

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https://www.autoblog.com/news/the-great-ev-cost-divide-which-states-offer-the-biggest-ev-savings

Chinese graphite is crucial to electric car batteries. [The Administration] just put a 93.5% tariff on it | CNN Business

EVs should have bumper sales in Q3. Come Q4 the EV market in the US is probably going to take a big hit with expiration of rebates and increased costs
for materials.

Not just EVs…

https://www.motor1.com/news/766369/tariffs-killing-cheap-new-cars/

Well, I got my Ioniq 6 out of the shop after 7 weeks of being rear ended after 4 hours of driving it off the lot! :face_holding_back_tears: and getting my my Level 2 home charger installed today.

I love this car. It is such a smooth ride and the regenerative braking is sweet. I was a little surprised about how much fast charging at a charge station costs, about $20 to go from 20% to 80% which is still much cheaper than gas. It’s a moot point now that I’ll be charging at home most of the time.

Question for you EV owners, how much (ballpark) does your light bill go up with the charger?

How long are batteries expected to last? I want to keep this car as long as possible and replace the battery rather than buying a new car. I have 100,000 mile warranty with Hyundai.

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Ugh, wow. That sucks.

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