Hey Johnny, have you tried one of those nights free plans? You could schedule the charging at night.
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In 2021 I bought Tesla solar panels and the power wall batteries. I paired that up with a free nights electricity plan.
The way the financing worked out, I basically swapped my electric bill for the solar panel bill.
My house runs on the panels and the batteries (if needed) from 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM.
From 9P - 9A my house runs on the grid for free. My car is scheduled to start charging at 10P so Iām using the free electricity.
I do still get an electric bill but itās never more than $20-25. Itās higher in the winter because there is less sun.
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Now thatās a hell of an idea!
Did you buy the solar panels or do you have SAAS?
No but itās certainly worth looking into.
I got a discount with Electrify America for the charger installation and have one available for solar panels as well. I donāt need to procrastinate any longer regardless of how good I am at it.
Still need to evaluate SAAS versus purchasing.
I bought them. If I had to do it all over again, I would have bought from a local seller instead of directly from Tesla. The service is atrocious.
After Hurricane Beryl last year, I had some roof damage. The insurance adjuster said some of the panels needed to be removed to fix the roof. Tesla told me they couldnāt come out until January (the hurricane was July). Fortunately, my roofer said he can fix everything without removing the panels.
I have a plan that is cheaper if I charge any hours beside 4pm to 9pm. I may go back to my old plan, as I work from home, so those hours are really expensive for me for everything else, but if youāre miserly during those hours (or whenever your utility gives you a discount), it can add up, if just a little.
Sucks to have it go in shop.
Looks nice, but looking at the cost to charge on the road (obviously not at home), my thought was really expensive, and NOT cheaper than gas. With range of 342 miles listed, the 60% charge would only be for a little over 200 miles. For me and other cars/sedans, that would only be about 6 gallons. So $21 using premium gas like I do (as little as $15 on regular gas)
Not going against EV, just shocked at the charge prices at pay locations for what should be a less expensive product. Do not know if your price was normal to pay.
For me, I average about 20 mpg in 6 cylinder
toyota highlander. Different classes of cars, but I typically pay about $2.55 / gallon so itās
$25.50 for me.
If 30mpg car, itās about $17.00 for the 200 miles of gas.
Yes, the charging station price($20) paid seems high.
I think JCās car has a 77kwh battery. 60% charging is about 46kwh. I pay about $0.14 kwh or it would be about $6.00 at home; which is less then 1/2 price of the regular gas. I think JC paid about $0.43 per kwh at the charging station. Very high it seems.
Yes, but still cheaper than gas.
Yeah, I specifically looked at cars, though some smaller SUVs get over 30 mpg combined.I also looked at miles per charge over the kwh since that can be a direct comparison. How much to go x distanceā¦
I do think that trucks get lower mpg, but would guess larger EV trucks would also get less miles per kwh. Have not looked that closely since I do not drive trucks, but canāt roll coal in an EV.
For me though EV is all about infrastructure which has a ways to go. Otherwise I would be all in.
I do wonder if when there are more charging stations, will it go down? or will it become a cash cow for the places that install chargers? Buy dinner at restaurant but also get $20 while their car is charging outsideā¦ Like drinks are profit makers when food is not as much.
Nope that charging station was not cheaper than gas.
edit - at least for the end user. More profitable for the station owner.
Did you get charged any idle fees on your charge up ?
Based on this graphic, you paid $0.10 more per kwh.
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I didnāt see idle fees. I always disconnect immediately to avoid them.
Iāll have to be more diligent about what Iām paying. So far, all the times Iāve used one of the Shell level 2 chargers at Bay Brook Mall, I havenāt paid anything. Might be part of a promo for signing up. I donāt know.
That is a good list of info. I keep waiting to see how the EV infrastructure grows until I can get one.
The idle fees could be a problem if places like restaurants charge them while you are eating. But for a stop on the side of the highway, it makes sense. This could be nice in the highway rest stops to raise money for maintaining them by the state.
I can see issues with the dynamic pricing and congestion fees at some times.Such as how does it work when a hurricane is in the gulf. If demand goes way up and prices shoot sky high, that can fall under price gouging laws.
Very true! But ā- according to AI ā-
Currently, federal law generally prohibits electric vehicle charging stations at interstate rest areas. This restriction stems from a 1956 law that aimed to prevent commercial activity at rest stops, encouraging businesses to operate at interchanges instead. While some states have started installing charging stations at rest areas on their state-maintained highways, itās not a nationwide practice on interstates.
I wouldnāt expect a change in that stupid and outdated federal law to allow EV charging in the next 3 years if you catch my drift.
I think they are currently allowed on turnpike rest areas.
Lots of these.
I do wonder if there is an way around. At the rest stops, I already can put money (cash credit) in a machine and get a soda or chips, but to say I cannot put money in a machine and get electricity back seems questionable. Same concept and systems, just different product.
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One of most shocking things in that video was that Texas demand will
almost double in 5 years.
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Tesla just announced that Samsungs new chip fab in Texas will make the processors for its cars and robots exclusively. WOW. No worries about supply chain reliance off shore. Thanks, previous admin.
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Yea I saw that too.