This directly relates to UH because it’s not just about sports. Tech boosters are also doing this to ensure Tech gets into the B1G or SEC in the next round of expansion. Guess who the biggest loser is if Tech gets in?
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I think it’s interesting that $55MM is the ceiling here; objectively, that’s a lot of money, but also, like…a certain single alumnus of their Football program makes $45MM himself in the pro ranks. Split across 100ish football players, not to mention their basketball, softball, etc. rosters….that’s not really that insurmountable of a gap for a lot of programs.
Tech isn’t ever getting into the sec bc A&M and UT won’t allow it. The big will look at market and pass. Tech will never carry Texas as a market and their market is small. The big could grab tcu, smu or us and the big market knowing the 100 mil or the big 10 contract would automatically make the 3 competitive.
Tech’s problem is market and that the sec already grabbed the 2 brands that generally carry Texas as a state. UH has the market value over tech.
Tech will just spend money, maybe win then that is it. Sec won’t invite them.
You have to honestly think that if tech makes a splash, A&M and UT will certainly feel threatened and block that move.
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https://amp.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article307994270.html
Like said, it all should get more under control vs wild west
FIFY.
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Maybe part of why TTech is spending big now is that from this year on, the UH Athletics conference payout is financially even with them for the first time in 30 years. If they don’t make it happen soon, it gets harder every year as we catch up to them after decades in the wilderness.
Flashback —IIRC, in 2007 when Baylor took away Art Briles, At one point, Baylor’s B12 payout was $25mm a year and our AAC payout was $2.5mm a year. That was a 10-1 $ advantage. In 10 years, we’d earn what Baylor and TTech earned in one year. And in 10 years, they’d each earn a Quarter of a Freakin’ Billion Dollars. Also at that time, CUSA was getting $2.5mm/year — for their entire conference — Brutal !
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I can see the forward thinkers in the ncaa putting such silly hard caps on things without taking into consideration that the qb at ball state is not the same as qb at Texas. But I can see a standard cap that will get blown up in court and here comes the collective bargaining of the new player’s union.
Cant wait for the first college football strike.
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It is the gift that keeps giving. It’s never ending turmoil and lawsuits. Wouldn’t the players have to be considered employees in order to have collective bargaining and be able to strike? I wonder if it wouldn’t be better for all if they were declared employees. They then get taxed on salary and I’d guess ath depts get taxed on profits which might help us bc UH apparently doesn’t make a true profit. This mess keeps changing.
A&M swore they would never allow Texas into the Sec. They were very vocal in their opposition to ever being paired with Texas again. We’ve all seen how that turned out. Tech is the odds on favorite for inclusion (there’s that word again) for the very reasons stated multiple times in this forum. They’re laying the ground work for it to happen and the networks (the real decision makers) will approve.
Tech……softball U
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Tech won’t ever be in the sec. The sec has the state of texas covered. They only need the 2 in Texas. It’s the same reason Houston will never be in the sec no matter what we do. If the sec expands , they will go after Colorado, Kansas or Acc teams . Tech is doing what they are doing to simply win in the big12 and they can win a national title from the big12 in the new playoff format. The big 12 is good enough for any team to win it all if good enough. Texas and A&M together would block tech and tech brings no extra market power to the sec. If you believe tech would bring market power to the sec then you might as well say Houston and both never will happen going to the sec.
Plus your comparing UT with tech and it’s not even close. Everyone wanted Texas and they can pick their conf at will so A&M was never going to stop it and once they got 2 Texas teams they are done. The sec will look for new markets regardless of what tech does.
Even if we won a national championship in fb or bb , the sec won’t take Houston bc of what I mentioned and it’s the same for tech. Sec ship has sailed for the rest of the Texas teams.
Indiana is the only state that I think will end up getting a third P2 team, and that won’t happen if conferences start shedding hangers-on. California could do it if Notre Dame bullies the B1G into letting Stanford come along, but I’m skeptical they will. I think we’re pretty close to a point where all of the brands worth taking have been taken.
Tech is not getting into the SEC. They’re not needed.
SEC has the entire state of Texas covered with UT & A&M, and any additional add would dilute revenue for the entire conference at no benefit.
The only 2 teams left worth expanding with for the SEC is UNC & Virginia.
They’re both in prime SEC territory (SEC HQ is in North Carolina), and both schools are all around solid adds (culturally, academics, basketball, decent football) for the conference.
I would agree.
Outside of UNC & Virginia, I think ND is 1 of 3 remaining programs that have any real P2 feasibility.
As far as Stanford goes, I don’t technically see why Notre Dame would need them as a partner.
I don’t believe either SEC or B1G will want to add FSU or Clemson. In fact, I think both FSU & Clemson will end up in the Big 12 along with Miami once the ACC finally disbands.
Won’t happen. I’ve heard 3rdWard say that before and I’ve always thought it was ridiculous.
Fraternities don’t issue bids to a cool guy’s dorky friend in the hopes of pledging the cool guy.
They simply give a bid to the cool guy and black ball the dorky friend. If the cool guy doesn’t pledge, then cest la vie.
In the B1G fraternity, ND would be the cool guy, and a Stanford the dorky friend.
Stanford has a bottom three fan base, as has been posted here.before. WAY too small a brand to even get full ACC shares. Would be a total parasite in the B1G.
The B1G is NOT so desperate for ND that it would ever be forced to add such a parasite. They are already the number one money conference without them.
And as someone with five ND alums as cousins….I can tell you straight up that ND doesn’t care nearly as much about Stanford as it does its other historical rivals that are already in the B1G (USC,Michigan, MSU,Purdue, NW, etc). If ND hasn’t joined for those rivals, then you can be certain that won’t for Stanford.
I’ve said before that only ND and a few top ACC brands (Clemson, FSU, UNC, Miami), have any real P2 shot.
UH certainly does not. Too small a brand and fan base. Tech, though larger in that regard, is also not big enough.
Markets alone won’t get anybody in. That was a big deal a decade or more ago when cable carriage fees were what mattered most. Cord cutting has foiled that.
If markets were truly decisive, then GaTech, BC, and USF would all be in the P2.
They are not because football brand size means more than markets, and none of those three have a big enough football brand.
They do, though. Just like how teams recruit a guy’s less-athletic little brother, or hire his dad, in hopes that the guy they actually want will play for them.
Heating you say that tells me you were never in a fraternity.
Trust me on this.
The dorky friend never gets a bid.
USC’s dorky friend got a bid, why wouldn’t Notre Dame’s?
UCLA wasn’t a dorky friend.
They were the PAC school with the most basketball history and second most football conference titles at the time.
Together, they made up 40% of the PAC’s media value, according to most sources.
Bad example.
Two big brands.
NOT like ND and Stanford.
Inviting ND and Stanford would be like a fraternity bidding Zack and Screech from Saved By The Bell.
Between the SWC and B12, Texas Tech has a grand total of zero outright conference championships. Before they start pitching themselves as the best candidate to another conference, don’t you think they need a football championship under their cowboy belt?
Agree this Texas Tech NIL spending spree is to win the B12, not buy their way to another conference.
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Aggie has 1 vote…ONE. They were never going to be able to keep out whorn, without a whole bunch of old SEC heavy hitters to go along with them. Whorn and oakie were brought in…and in time, the SEC will be regretting it…just like everyone who affiliates with Texas. Tech is an odds on favorite for P2? PLEASE… Tech isnt laying the ground work for anything other than trying to do better in Big 12. Saying Tech is prepping to go P2 is way out in left field…CMON…
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