I’ve been showing up for 50+ years.
Florida St. was just another example and a good one having played 17 times vs. 10 for UCF.
I’ve been showing up for 50+ years.
Florida St. was just another example and a good one having played 17 times vs. 10 for UCF.
You are clearly a good coog. You will clearly be a part of our ucf rivalry fanbase.
The problem is, if you’re currently a senior on campus, you weren’t alive the last time we played Baylor, and when we last played TCU you could count your age on your fingers. Further, look at the number of times they’ve played each other compared to UH:
| Baylor | TCU | Texas Tech | Houston | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Baylor | X | 117 | 80 | 28 |
| TCU | 117 | X | 64 | 25 |
| Texas Tech | 80 | 64 | X | 34 |
| Houston | 28 | 25 | 34 | X |
Every single one of them has also played Oklahoma State, SMU, and Rice more than they’ve played us. TCU has also played KU more than they’ve played us, and Tech has done the same with New Mexico. In the scale of college football rivalries, a 30-game series that ended 30 years ago is functionally zero history.
Preach!
I could care less about their fanbase thoughts or about your age. There are many of our most loyal fans, that contribute to CP and buy multiple season tickets that do know and care about our proud past.
Do you really care about playing a FL school over a Texas one?
I get why they did it, it’s not in our best interest though.
Its a multi-pronged debate. Fan interest, geography, attendance, general interest of the sports community.
The regional programs check all the boxes. Saying we’re scheduling rivals out of conference necessity makes sense to the conference, but it doesn’t move the needle on the interest scale. We all agree we should show up regardless of the opponent. But its the passion that drives enthusiasm. I’m passionate about playing Baylor and TCU and Tech. I’m just generally happy playing UCF because they’re a good program. Two levels of engagement, but with drastically different financial and practical implications. I’m not a zealot about it. And I won’t complain about it because I understand the rationale.
I don’t care who the coogs play. I support them. Donate to cp. get season tickets. If they are from Fl, Tennessee tech, rice, or ucf. I show up for the coogs. This mentality of we only want to be rivals for Texas teams doesn’t mean jack. We had terrible home attendance in the swc games unless we were playing ut, a&m, or Ourkansas. That’s a fact. I hope that changes.
I see what you’re saying. I’m not sure what UH can do to push the issue. I think it’s kind of cheap to give UH and UCF a rivalry that’s the furthest distance away; however, maybe there’s some thought in commuting time with flights Vs cars. IAH to Orlando is only 3 hours and flights are cheap.
Austin to Lubbock is 6 hours drive and a 3-5 hour flight.
In ‘25, Tech will be the natural state rival, but I think they’ll also gravitate to OSU. UCF could be for UH something akin to USC and ND. There just needs to be the appropriate level of promotion for it. A UH alumni association needs to be chartered in Florida that helps promote the attendance like ND did in California during the start of their matches.
Frankly, UHAA really needs to take the wheel and see the opportunity here to grow alumni support around the country like UCLA, Miami, and Notre Dame.
Yeah, only Texas would be D2 Lone Star Conference. Join with UTPB or D3 with Trinity and the other schools in SCAC.
I’m with you: support regardless. I frankly want nothing to do with UT Austin. UH built a powerhouse without UT and A&M in the past. It can be done again (with the right coaching and staff strategy)
I actually wish UH embellished the Florida State and Miami rivalries more. Those are exciting. I would buy a shirt that chirped those Tally State Semis that Houston 13-2-2.
Even with a losing record to Miami, I’d still enjoy the heck out of playing them.
I’m all about supporting the Coogs no matter who we play, but in-state teams should always be the first in terms of rivals, it’s not rocket science. Dave Campbell’s Texas football ranks Texas teams, it’s about in-state pride and prestige. Like going to four Cotton Bowls when there were only four games on January 1st and three out of the first four years in the SWC after being spurned by the conference for so many years and then being left out of the B12 although a lot of it was our own fault. There’s a passion that many younger fans just don’t know about.
Ask the Texas schools who they dislike the most, it’s us and for good reason, we kicked their butts regularly and will again shortly.
Like Coach always said, it’s tough being a Coog.
We’ve played instate rivals since the swc broke up and attendance has been horrible for the most part. Not including tech and Ut games that were on occasion the rice and smu games haven’t been well attended. Moving on. Proof is in attendance.
Dan,
I’m a huge fan of Dave Campbell and I understand the pride within the republic of football; however greed and television contracts have destroyed that regional grudgefest. Does it make sense that USC is playing Rutgers in conference play? Not at all, but it’s all about the money and it is ruining some of the sport.
I personally feel that UH can successfully move on without UT Austin and A&M, but it will require a different strategy. It will have to get really good at research, like >1.5B in research and jump the nonsense rankings to be a top 50 school. Essentially, out school them in all areas outside of athletics (and probably endowment). This isn’t a 10 year goal, it’s a 25-50 year goal.
I also am of the perspective that all of the old SWC teams are back stabbers and that culture is what poisoned the XII. The new XII needs to emulate the B1G (better than the SEC): research, funding, and cohesive promotion of the conference.
Lastly, prestige comes from French and it means “deceit”. There are only moral victories in being the best in Texas, but actual elite trophies to be won at the conference and national title games.
Woodedge, no doubt about what you are saying, but it won’t make UCF a primary rival, the fans decide that.
I hate Cincy and UCF MORE than any Texas team because I went to school 2008-2011…
I gave away all of my burnt orange in 2008… 
I can appreciate that, however the whole point of joining the B12 was to get back to playing our natural rivals. Tilman has said as much time and again.
For those bashing UCF as a designated rival when we still will play the 3 SWC schools, who should the Big 12 have paired UCF with?
Houston is the most obvious choice
I want to beat Texas.
Frankly, I don’t give a damn. I understand why they did it, but again, it’s not in our best interest and that’s all that I care about.
Woodedge, I want to thank you for the research on our past, it behooves all of us the know it.
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