The Big 12 is going to make UCF our primary rival

I know you guys want to play the other 3 Texas schools in football every year, but that’s also not entirely fair for the rest of the league. Especially when schools like BYU and OSU have to recruit the crap out of Texas for continued success. The 2 or 3 permanent rival model is still the way to go IMO. Basically guarantees everyone 2 games against Texas state schools a year.

ISU, KU, KSU
CIncy, WVU, UCF
OSU, Houston, Tech
BYU, Baylor, TCU

That model of permanent rivals makes a lot of sense for everyone.

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I don’t think BYU has to play the Texas schools to be set up for success. Since 2015, they’ve played exactly two games in TX, and one of those was in the pandemic year. They have a total of five players from TX on their roster. It seems like they do most of their recruiting in the western US rather than in TX. I think they’re much more concerned with playing UCF, WVU, and Cincy as little as possible, and that feeling’s probably mutual.

With Cincy and UCF in the mix, I also don’t necessarily expect the conference’s recruiting to depend on TX as heavily as it has in the past. Even then, with two divisions of six, we could still have teams play every team home and away every four years, which could pretty easily give the schools who didn’t share a division with the TX schools a game in TX every year as well as one in either Florida or Ohio.

That model is for 8 games…We will be playing 9 conference games, almost for sure…the better to have a strong schedule for playoffs…The 2 top ones need to play each other every year, and the 2 bottom ones need to play each other every year…That still leaves 4 conference games to play with the other 2 pods…It will be interesting to see how they work it out…But the Texas schools want to play one another and i think they will…That is 3 games out of 9, not a back breaker to do…

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It works for a 9 game schedule too. You just play the entire group of a different set of rivals. Have that rotate every 2 years

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Yeah I feel like we’ve been with Cincinnati since I first started college as an undergrad (25 years ago! :scream:).

UC got lucky when they, along with Louisville, were invited to the Big East. That set them up for a while as a P5. They were left out to dry in 2012 like many of us when the Big East broke up. However, they have responded nicely with new facilities, great coaches and expanded fan base.

UCF is the same.

Also, all three of us are big public schools in large, vibrant urban metros. We all have the big state school brother that gets all the glamour and money (UF and FSU for UCF, OSU for UC and UT/TAMU for us).

We have too much in common for us not to be rivals.

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The old SWC folks in here will never agree with us…

But I hate Cincy more than any other school in the Big 12.

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Looks like we will get 100% Big12 payout in year 3.
https://twitter.com/Joseph_Duarte/status/1535299052417388544?t=S3HZFg6GaZYlWRbx23jQcA&s=03

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Why?

From our back & forth with them since I started studying at UH in 2008…

Basketball and football have slugged it out over the past 13-14 seasons… And that’s been most of my experience as a Coog.

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That’s better than TCU and WV.

Just wondering. I don’t hate them, but they have been a thorn in our sides. We have played them a lot over the years, and as far as basketball goes, they have absolutely kicked our behind over the years. They led the series like 27-1 until a few years ago. I was at Hofheinz for our only win in the series (1972 or so) until recently. Looking forward to continuing the series with them.

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I have no clue as to how the football scheduling will go since that primary rival stuff is just for basketball and just for the time OUT are still in the B12. After that everything starts over. I am not going to worry about something when we don’t even know what it is yet.

As for me, I am looking forward to playing OSU as much as any team in Texas. In basketball, I am really looking forward to KU, ISU, OSU, TT, and BU.

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I know, for me personally anyway, that I will feel a rivalry with the other three teams coming in with us. I don’t want them to do better than us, as a pride thing.

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I also had a couple of encounters with UC Alumni talking down on UH after I compared the two schools… I politely let them know they were out of their bleeping minds!

UC alumni that had moved to Houston to find work… :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Suck it Cincy!

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Nothing like collegiate hatred. I live for this chit!

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US News rankings: Cincy #148; UH #179.
I didn’t know they had 46K students.

Fixed.

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Right on, brother.

I made some sample UH schedules (once UT and OU are gone) with various scenarios for 2025

Assuming 9 games with 5 set rivals
FCS Team
Colorado
Boise State
@Tech
Baylor
@TCU
oSu
@BYU
KU
@UCF
WVU
@ISU

DNP: KSU, UC

9 Conference games with UCF as only guaranteed game (rest picked randomly)

FCS Team
Colorado
Boise State
@UCF
KU
@BU
ISU
@UC
KSU
@Tech
WVU

DNP: TCU & BYU

8 Game schedule with 5 guaranteed opponents
FCS Team
G5 Team
Colorado
Boise State
@Tech
Baylor
@TCU
oSu
@BYU
KU
@UCF
WVU

DNP: ISU, KSU, UC

8 conference games with only UCF as guaranteed rival

FCS Team
G5 Team
Colorado
Boise State
@UCF
KU
@BU
ISU
@UC
KSU
@Tech

DNP: WVU, TCU & BYU

I’m not sure which y’all would prefer, but I guess there isn’t too much difference in them. I still prefer the 5 guarantees.

Easy enough to split the difference with three guarantees. Use the pods (outlined by Cy above, same one as I’ve used in the past) then add one more.

I’m fine with UCF being our +1.

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