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Right. It’s not like the top ranked teams in CFB lose in an actual playoff scenario…

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If they had been invited as they should have been we’d know for sure. But because they weren’t the whole thing is disputable.

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Y’all want a good laugh…

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Computer metrics are hardly unbiased.

They reflect the biases of the people creating the computer metrics.

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You are making assumptions Monte. You ought to know better.
What do we know for sure Monte and that is a fact.
The big10 and sec will sc…w every conference including the BIG12 and acc to enhance monetary gains. That is why the bcs was created. This is why the cfp was created. Latest proof? The sec chief putting pressure on the cfp.
It does not alarm you that espn and others wanted to implode the BIG12 when you know who left? Who stepped up? Bowlsby, against all odds he gave a lifeline to the BIG12. Do you think espn, utamafia, okie were happy?
Why in the world should we exclude other DIV I FBS champions from the cfp? On what ground?

Say what? Then the BCS and CFP winners are in the same boat. So UCF is just as legit according to the NCAA.

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Being logical ought to be easy to understand. I guess not for some.
Utah and UCF are clear National Champion.

The BCS and CFP winners ultimately win it on the field.

Not so with UCF.

Apples to oranges.

Pretty basic logic, as 92010 would say.

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But according to your post, they are just “recognized.” So equal to UCF’s. That’s what the NCAA says, and they are the governing body. And they are listed in the OFFICIAL NCAA record book.

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They are just recorded by the NCAA.

But if you want to know why few on the outside take their claims of a natty as seriously as the others, well, THAT’S WHY.

It was NOT decided on the field, or by the pollsters.

Maybe by some, but not by the NCAA.

And actually, they aren’t even recognized by the NCAA, simply recorded.

To the extent that the outside world recognizes their claim, the reason few do for Utah and UCF, unlike those others, is because the others either settled it on the field, or won public opinion (polls).

It’s listed in their official record book, just like the BCS champion. So are you saying that the BCS champion doesn’t count either? Look for yourself, as a lawyer, you should take what is officially on record as real.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2018/FBS.pdf

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They weren’t given the opportunity. How can you dismiss the fact that they were not invited to the postseason tournament. You’re acting like they played and lost. They never lost a game, and they beat auburn who beat both teams in the title game that year

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Answer: because I can.

Week in and week out…they did NOT face the same schedule…and the polls (as I said, PUBLIC OPINION) REFLECT that.

UCF went undefeated and beat the only team Alabama lost to.

They weren’t given the chance to prove in on the field so they had to claim it this way

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Disputed*

How do you define obvious?
Some posters have a difficulty when it means obvious. What is the obvious is how both schools were kicked out from participating in the bcs and cfp.
Why kicked out? Yes they were undefeated when at the same time the so called bcs and cfp teams refused to play them. The same bs happened with Boise State a few years back.
Lastly I call bs on some posters that have the nerve to tell us they did not belong. When at the same time they would have wrote that U of H belonged if the shoe was on the other foot.
All can see, clearly see that the bcs and cfp has never been about sport but about money sharing.
The sec commissioner is now putting pressure on the cfp on sec’s behalf.

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Thats right, CFP had a playoff. UCF wasnt in it so they couldnt win it…Claiming a natty just makes Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan et al LAUGH out loud!
i dont even remember who won the playoff that year, but it WASNT UCF…
WHO CARES anyway??? We have a 12 team playoff now and likely it will be increased. Thats the story now…

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